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Texas judge under fire over discipline video

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jaigner

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The legal question is unsettled and child psychologist are wrong so often that, if we followed their instructions, saying "no" is simply off limits

Funny, I am familiar with the field and I've never heard of any specialist say that; in fact, I am familiar with many of the leaders in the field, including evangelical Christians, who are all about being loving, firm and consistent parents.

But I think any of them would call this abuse.
 

Walter

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That was not a spanking. He (or was it his wife who said it?) said something about getting a beating. That's WAY different than a swat on the butt with a hand. He was out of control and angry and I think he SHOULD be under fire for it.

More than 'under fire' for it. He needs to be locked up for a period of time in the same way he would lock up anyone for assaulting someone. This goes so outside the bounds of appropriate discipline. Interesting enough, found this online today. This is just the results of research on 'spanking' not beating as the 'good' judge found necessary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRfflggBg
 

Mexdeaf

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I'm not equating "spanking" with "assaulting." I find it ridiculous that I have to even say that. I'm not necessarily against spanking, but a spanking is different from a beating.

Ok then I misunderstood your points and I am guessing we agree more than disagree.
 

Bobby Hamilton

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I find it interesting that the very same people who blame the parents for not disciplining their children when the child goes bad cry against a parent who does discipline their child to keep them from going bad. What hypocrisy!
This girl was not harmed! She doesn't even claim that she was medically harmed in any way. She simply got a serious whipping. She knew she was doing wrong and prepared a video because she knew discipline was coming. This is/was an out of control teen and her father was seeking to correct her actions. Others might not follow his exact way of handling it but what he did does not call for criminal charges or being fired from his job. Those calls come from liberal socialist dictator type mind-sets who want to run other peoples lives.

The only reason that some are against this is because of liberal culture and mid-sets. 100 years ago this kind of punishment would have been nothing and even applauded. In fact biblically this IS nothing! The bible calls for a rod (club) on the back and says to beat them you will not kill them but save them. My guess is that her thieving days ended because of the punishment. The sad thing is she is still in rebellion and her mother is supporting her. There should be no criminal investigation over this.
I have for years called for horse whipping many of these young thugs as well as adults who come before the courts, especially on first offenses, instead of putting them in jail or prison. It would solve many problems.

[SIZE=+0]Now I am not saying that I do not see a problem here. The father and mother both did not give the discipline out of love, but out of anger, but that does not constitute child abuse, just poor parenting skills. The father may very well be a control freak and a jerk, I don't know, but the type of discipline was not over the top as this child clearly willfully disobeyed and became a thief. She was thumbing her nose at the parents rules as well as the law. The problem is not with the discipline but with how it was done and my guess is, unfortunately, everything was done that way in that home, but again it is not a criminal case!
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That alone doesn't make it right either.
 

carpro

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I saw no evidence of love in that video from the father. Hatred, uncontrolled anger, a man not in command of himself, all of those, yes. But love, no.

Hatred is a real stretch. But definitely anger was in evidence.
 

Mexdeaf

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Let him/her who has never punished his/her child wrongly cast the first stone.

Maybe you didn't beat them with a belt in anger. But you gave them the 'silent treatment'. Told them they were worthless and would never amount to anything. Used them as pawns in your broken marriage.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Or maybe you wished for an entire family to fail.

I know which side has the hatred. To wish for a wife to leave a man you have a disagreement with is the sickest thing I have ever read on this board. I cannot believe it wasn't edited. Or retracted.
 
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