Texas School shooting:

[Matt Black]

OK, since we are being derailed into talking about abortion, I'll bite: I am against it. So, I wouldn't automatically be a Democrat I guess; my position is more nuanced than that with the issue not being as partisan over here. You accuse me of hypocrisy, but I was drawing attention to the inconsistency of the so-called "pro-life" position in the US: you are all outraged over abortion - and rightly so - but are content it seems to see your schoolchildren gunned down en masse and not be willing to do a darn thing to change your gun laws to stop this. Hence: pro-life expires at birth. Prove me wrong: change your disgusting laws and I'll change my "disgusting" comment.

EWT asked for the UK's position on abortion: I'm am not sure whether he means legal position, or stats. On the former, the 1967 law permits abortion where the health of the mother is at risk. On the latter, recent stats have us at a rate of 17 abortions per 1000 women, compared to 20.8 per 1000 in the US Abortion Rates by Country 2022

I suspect that part if the reason for our lower rate is free contraception, and better maternity rights and maternity pay....on other words, more pro-life policies than the US

 

[Aaron]

More whattaboutery but, seeing as you raised it, with the pending abolition of Roe -v- Wade, parents of unwanted children just have to wait until they're school age in the US - or, if they really can't wait that long, just let them play with a perfectly legal firearm in the comfort of their own home.

Remember, "pro-life" only lasts until birth...

So it seems you're the real baby-killer. Not me.

 

[canadyjd]

I am asking the mods to close the thread. Lots of heat and very little light.

peace to you

 

[Matt Black]

Nope, I was making a sarcastic comment on the hypocrisy of the so-called "pro-life"* movement

*Offer expires at birth

[ETA: reply to Aaron who clearly hasn't read my previous post where i said I was anti-abortion. To clarify: I am against all killing. Does anyone else need that clarifying?]

 

[canadyjd]

Peace

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Driving a car is a privilege granted by the state. As such, the state puts requirements on citizens exercising that privilege.

The constitutional right to own weapons prevents the government from requiring tests of government approval for citizens to exercise those rights. Should the government require training and licensing to exercise free speech? To protest? To vote? To worship?

The reason gun registry is a bad idea is it can lead to confiscation from law abiding citizens.

In this country, the first big push at gun control was Democrats in the south attempting to keep guns out of the hands of former slaves. Why? So when the Democrat KKK came to kill blacks, they couldn’t fight back.

Throughout modern history, in Stalins Russia and Hitlers Germany, the populous was disarmed before government sponsored mass murder began.

One reason many Americans support gun rights is because they do not trust the people in charge in our government.

All you need to do is to look at POTUS comment last week that the GOP is an “existential threat” to America. If your President is calling his political opponents an “existential threat”, it isn’t much of a leap to believe it wasn’t another gaffe from the gaffe king, and he might take action against such a threat such as banning guns.

Peace to you

That looks like a not so vailed threat! Good reason to have guns to protect from authoritarian & totalitarian governments. In the USA, freedoms will be defended!

 

[Matt Black]

Is your consitution that bad that you all need to be armed to the teeth against your own government?? Seriously?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

You should repent over that disgusting comment.

Gillinist, shouldn’t waste your time.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Is your consitution that bad that you all need to be armed to the teeth against your own government?? Seriously?

You mean like we had to militarize against the UK?

 

[Salty]

Closed at request of OP