Texas School shooting:

[Matt Black]

More whattaboutery. Can we stay on topic; the title of the thread is about the school shooting

 

[JesusFan]

Just watched POTUS. He’s pushing for new gun laws. He claimed two things I’ll be interested to learn if accurate.

1) he stated when the assault rifle ban passed in the 90’s, mass shootings went way down.

2) he said when that law expired, mass shootings tripled.

I think I’ve heard this argument before and it has been debunked. If I’m remembering correctly, the POTUS just engaged in a whole lot of disinformation.

I’ll wait patiently for the beg tech “fact checkers”.

peace to you

The only cure for all of this is to have a changed heart by becoming saved in Christ Jesus!

Having the Gospel and Bible into the public schools and them used by the Lord, by we have long ago decided to kick God out and to the curb, and look what we have been reaping from that!

 

[JesusFan]

and this compares with your frequent mass murders by shootings, exactly how?

Those killings are the direct result of our society choosing to turn away from the true Lord, and are now reaping the rotten fruit of that choice, and they would have killed if not with guns, with cars, grenades, whatever was available to them!

 

[JonC]

Blah, blah, blah. You always lead with criticisms of conservatives.

Not because you are a conservative. I am a conservative. But because the DNC platform you support ate wrong (they are the sins of Romans 3).

 

[5 point Gillinist]

More whattaboutery but, seeing as you raised it, with the pending abolition of Roe -v- Wade, parents of unwanted children just have to wait until they're school age in the US - or, if they really can't wait that long, just let them play with a perfectly legal firearm in the comfort of their own home.

Remember, "pro-life" only lasts until birth...

"whattaboutery" so you don't actually care about lives, good to know.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Nope. We don't have prayers in school either...but don't have mass killings in them

These people are now with the Lord. As tragic as this event is, we must learn and grow and ‘build back better’ to use a phrase(campaign advertisement) lie coined by Brandan to make America great again. I propose to allow prayer again in schools, have background checks nationally, fund protection guards in schools (and other gathering places). There must be no government activity designed to restrain gun rights (constitution) but there should be made availability to owners of fire arms safety training. Lastly, make available more access to carry a fire arm for protection. I’d feel much more comfortable knowing that there are people in my church carrying and not afraid to use the gun for protection should a nut job enter the building with Evil intent.​

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

"whattaboutery" so you don't actually care about lives, good to know.

In this country, Matt would be a modern Democrat. Sorry but no more authorizations allowed in unless you sneak in through Mexico.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

In this country, Matt would be a modern Democrat.

No matter the country I think Matt needs to repent.

 

[Matt Black]

"whattaboutery" so you don't actually care about lives, good to know.

Of course I do...but the subject raised was not the topic of this thread. It's a bit like discussing how to prevent rape and someone asking "but what about the murder rate"; asking someone to stick to the topic of rape prevention is not saying that we don't care about the murder rate, it is just asking people to stay on topic. If you want to start a thread on abortion, feel free...

 

[Matt Black]

No matter the country I think Matt needs to repent.

I thought personal attacks were not allowed here....or who died and appointed you God?

 

[Matt Black]

In this country, Matt would be a modern Democrat.

Nope...not left wing enough for me

 

[5 point Gillinist]

I thought personal attacks were not allowed here....or who died and appointed you God?

Of course I do...but the subject raised was not the topic of this thread. It's a bit like discussing how to prevent rape and someone asking "but what about the murder rate"; asking someone to stick to the topic of rape prevention is not saying that we don't care about the murder rate, it is just asking people to stay on topic. If you want to start a thread on abortion, feel free...

You seem mighty hot and bothered by gun violence, but not the genocide that has taken place over many years and has murdered hundreds of millions.
Just for the record what stopped the shooter?

 

[5 point Gillinist]

I thought personal attacks were not allowed here....or who died and appointed you God?

How is this a personal attack?

 

[Matt Black]

How is this a personal attack?

Saying I needed to repent

 

[Matt Black]

You seem mighty hot and bothered by gun violence, but not the genocide that has taken place over many years and has murdered hundreds of millions.
Just for the record what stopped the shooter?

How many more times do I have to spell it out: Abortion. Is. Not. The. Topic. Of. This. Thread.

If you want to talk about abortion, why not start a thread on it?

 

[5 point Gillinist]

How many more times do I have to spell it out: Abortion. Is. Not. The. Topic. Of. This. Thread.

If you want to talk about abortion, why not start a thread on it?

"More whattaboutery but, seeing as you raised it, with the pending abolition of Roe -v- Wade, parents of unwanted children just have to wait until they're school age in the US - or, if they really can't wait that long, just let them play with a perfectly legal firearm in the comfort of their own home.

Remember, "pro-life" only lasts until birth..."

Since you made this disgusting comment you opened the door for it.

So murder when it happens with guns bad, murder when it happens by doctors meh. You are inconsistent and hypocritical in your outrage over murder. Thank you.

BTW what stopped the shooter? I notice that you didn't answer that.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

Saying I needed to repent

You should repent over that disgusting comment.

 

[canadyjd]

First, guns are one tool that people use to kill other people. Guns are not evil, just as a car is not evil, but the humans using them are evil.
Second, to use a car one must get a license to show they are trained to use the car. The car must be registered with the State to show it is legal to be used and it must be insured.

Why, therefore, should we not require that anyone using a gun go through training and be licensed? Why should every gun not be registered and any gun user go through a background check to purchase a gun and use a gun? This seems reasonable and beneficial to society.

I think Steve Kerr expresses what the majority of people in the US believe about gun control. Let's have a federal background check on the purchase of guns and the licensed right to use a gun.

Driving a car is a privilege granted by the state. As such, the state puts requirements on citizens exercising that privilege.

The constitutional right to own weapons prevents the government from requiring tests of government approval for citizens to exercise those rights. Should the government require training and licensing to exercise free speech? To protest? To vote? To worship?

The reason gun registry is a bad idea is it can lead to confiscation from law abiding citizens.

In this country, the first big push at gun control was Democrats in the south attempting to keep guns out of the hands of former slaves. Why? So when the Democrat KKK came to kill blacks, they couldn’t fight back.

Throughout modern history, in Stalins Russia and Hitlers Germany, the populous was disarmed before government sponsored mass murder began.

One reason many Americans support gun rights is because they do not trust the people in charge in our government.

All you need to do is to look at POTUS comment last week that the GOP is an “existential threat” to America. If your President is calling his political opponents an “existential threat”, it isn’t much of a leap to believe it wasn’t another gaffe from the gaffe king, and he might take action against such a threat such as banning guns.

Peace to you

 

[Squire Robertsson]

 

[5 point Gillinist]

First, guns are one tool that people use to kill other people. Guns are not evil, just as a car is not evil, but the humans using them are evil.
Second, to use a car one must get a license to show they are trained to use the car. The car must be registered with the State to show it is legal to be used and it must be insured.

Why, therefore, should we not require that anyone using a gun go through training and be licensed? Why should every gun not be registered and any gun user go through a background check to purchase a gun and use a gun? This seems reasonable and beneficial to society.

I think Steve Kerr expresses what the majority of people in the US believe about gun control. Let's have a federal background check on the purchase of guns and the licensed right to use a gun.

You'd be amazed how many DWS, no DL, DUI etc. (all driving violations) we get in. The point being no matter how restrictive you make something for law abiding citizens, those who ignore the law (criminals) will disregard it anyway.