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Matt Black

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"All parents can"? Really???? I'd put that to the parents of the 19 murdered yesterday and see what they'd say....
 

Conan

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Most of your list involve gangs fighting other gangs. A fantastic reason to own firearms so we can defend against them. Did you list all the times firearms were used by the good guys against the bad? If you ban firearms then only gang's will have them, and all those many more times firearms are used for good would not happen. The biases, owned by the elite billionaires news media only paint the bad for people to get them to act a certain way, to accept draconian laws. If you ban firearms criminals will keep theirs. Its already against the law for them to have them but they know the same liberal politicians who want to ban firearms don't pass tougher laws against the criminals because their reasons are not to save lives, but use the wicked to pass draconian laws.
 

Aaron

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It's 7am here in Britain. I'm about to say goodbye to my kids as they go to school, confident that, bar some once in a generation freak atrocity, none of them are going to get shot at school. Questions:

1. How many parents here can say that?
2. When are you going to fix this?
It's because you don't have Democrats.
 

Conan

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Take notice that the news media never, ever tell us why these people do these things. They only use the information to hurt and dramatize the situation, so they can help pass draconian laws.

Remember columbine shootings? When the sheriff's department arrived they locked the doors of the schools making the students stay indoors so they could find the gun. The shooters kept shooting people. That information was not released by the news media, until after they passed draconian gun laws which prevented nothing. What was the purpose of the withholding the information from the public? To pass draconian laws! Why did they not tell the truth about what had happened until years later? That was wrong, and everyone can see that.

The sheriff's department made the students stay in the school trying to recover a gun, but the shooters were still shooting people, and many more died because of the huge mistake of the sheriff, who did not understand the situation. They protected the sheriff, until the draconian law was passed, then they let the truth out, that the sheriff misunderstood and made students stay in the school, not understanding that the shooters were then actively still shooting people inside.
 
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SavedByGrace

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Most of your list involve gangs fighting other gangs. A fantastic reason to own firearms so we can defend against them. Did you list all the times firearms were used by the good guys against the bad? If you ban firearms then only gang's will have them, and all those many more times firearms are used for good would not happen. The biases, owned by the elite billionaires news media only paint the bad for people to get them to act a certain way, to accept draconian laws. If you ban firearms criminals will keep theirs. Its already against the law for them to have them but they know the same liberal politicians who want to ban firearms don't pass tougher laws against the criminals because their reasons are not to save lives, but use the wicked to pass draconian laws.

in the US it is probably impossible for a compelte ban, because there are millions of guns that are legally, and illegally with millions of people. some bans are restrictions are needed to stop this happening. How many more lives, espeaiclly of kids, need to be wasted, before anything gets done?
 

Matt Black

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It's because you don't have Democrats.
Er...no, it's because we reformed our gun laws. Australia did similar after Port Arthur. When are you going to do the same? What are the barriers preventing this in the US?
 

Conan

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if I might add another, what IF these mass shootings take place on a weekly basis in the US, will the "right" to own a gun, still be more important than saving lives? because this is what it really is.
Guns save far more lives. If the news media told you about all the times a firearm was used for the good that's all they have time to talk about it. But they don't. They only tell YOU about the bad. They do it for a purpose. Why do you think that is? The news media did not tell you about the 2 Church shooting that were prevented by rifles. I wonder why they would not tell the good news about how 2 shooters were stopped by guns?
 
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Conan

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Er...no, it's because we reformed our gun laws. Australia did similar after Port Arthur. When are you going to do the same? What are the barriers preventing this in the US?
The Australians were fools for doing it and they know it and regret it with all of the covid 19 lockdowns. The unarmed people protested but were put down by the police. The people were abused buy the goverment, and the Australians can't do anything about it because they have been disarmed as sheep. They now have no choice but to go along with it. Just like when obama got rid of their leader. The Australians couldn't do a thing about it.
 

Matt Black

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I don't see them being abused by their government. Most western countries had lockdowns in various degrees....apart from our own government who broke their own rules...
 

Conan

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Er...no, it's because we reformed our gun laws. Australia did similar after Port Arthur. When are you going to do the same? What are the barriers preventing this in the US?
Law abiding people. We are not slaves and will not be disarmed like slaves. That is never the right action, never. You are not after disarming criminals, but you are talking about disarming law abiding citizens! Why do you want to do that? Your reasons are not right, but wrong.
 

Conan

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I don't see them being abused by their government. Most western countries had lockdowns in various degrees....apart from our own government who broke their own rules...
You didn't see the violent actions on YouTube? The people protested. The government said it is not lawful to protest. The people protested anyway. The peoples protest were broken up many being arested and put in covid camps.
 

Aaron

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Er...no, it's because we reformed our gun laws. Australia did similar after Port Arthur. When are you going to do the same? What are the barriers preventing this in the US?
Dear British subject,

School shootings aren't happening because of the availability of guns.

Boiled down, the ones in control bear the arms. It's either your lords, or the people. I prefer it would be the people.

Thank you,
Free man of America
 

SavedByGrace

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The Australians were fools for doing it and they know it and regret it with all of the covid 19 lockdowns. The unarmed people protested but were put down by the police. The people were abused buy the goverment, and the Australians can't do anything about it because they have been disarmed as sheep. They now have no choice but to go along with it. Just like when obama got rid of their leader. The Australians couldn't do a thing about it.

how about some FACTS?

death per million from Covid in the USA, 3,076
death per million from Covid in Australia, 315

who are the fools?

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
 

JonC

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Really. And Murphy isn't?

Psst. Your Dem is showing.
I don't know Murphy. I don't even know Tillis (I just saw something pop up in the news section on my phone).

I didn't realize you were a Democrat (although in hind sight, I suppose it obvious). I do not follow politics.

But one does not have to be a Democrat to believe the shooting should not be used as a political pawn (by anybody). It is something that needs to be addressed. But not something that needs to be a political pawn.

Now is a time to morn the loss, not fight for political gain.
 

Matt Black

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Dear British subject,

School shootings aren't happening because of the availability of guns.

Boiled down, the ones in control bear the arms. It's either your lords, or the people. I prefer it would be the people.

Thank you,
Free man of America
Dear American

School mass shootings don't happen here anymore because we reformed our gun laws. When are you going to?

Yours

Free (particularly to go about my business without getting shot and free to let my kids go to school without worrying about them being shot) UK citizen
 

Matt Black

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Law abiding people. We are not slaves and will not be disarmed like slaves. That is never the right action, never. You are not after disarming criminals, but you are talking about disarming law abiding citizens! Why do you want to do that? Your reasons are not right, but wrong.
So you wish to preserve the "freedom" of your children to be shot dead at school. I find that mindset incomprehensible, particularly for a Christian
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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A couple other things. POTUS said this man bought two assault weapons in a gun store. I haven’t heard where he got the guns, but I did read a report he had a handgun and a rifle. Perhaps he is privy to more info than they are releasing, but the investigation is very early and details will be coming out for weeks.

It is very sad POTUS has immediately used this tragedy to push the dem agenda when the facts haven’t been established yet.

peace to you
He is The Mad Hatter, so what do you expect! My grandson will never go to a Public school.

praying for those people
 
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