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Earth Wind and Fire

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We have a constitutional right to own guns. The problem is to keep them out of the hands of the nuts and that takes allot of effort on the part of everyone … including the families to warn the law when they think there is possible danger on the horizon. Also, public environments like schools, supermarkets, churches must be policed by experienced police or guards… no nuts allowed in the building.
 

Conan

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So you wish to preserve the "freedom" of your children to be shot dead at school. I find that mindset incomprehensible, particularly for a Christian
That is your mindset not mine. Your ways do not work mine do. There are a hundred million gun owners in America. I would put armed people in schools. It should be a few armed teachers, but people like you say no guns in schools. Whats wrong with those teachers who want to be armed with having arms to protect the students? If in the rare case that there were none the goverment could hired armed guards. That would solve the problem. And could me and you at least agree that we should find out why these things happen in the first place? They used to never happen, even though there were hundreds of millions of firearms in America.

Could a rouge group of people be behind this, to sway public opinion a certain way? Our cia has done it before with the Unabomber.
 

Matt Black

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I would agree that we need to find out why these things happen, but it is not a binary either/or cop out: the US isn't the only country in the world to have people with mental health issues, we have similar health problems but we don't have mass shootings
 

SavedByGrace

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We have a constitutional right to own guns. The problem is to keep them out of the hands of the nuts and that takes allot of effort on the part of everyone … including the families to warn the law when they think there is possible danger on the horizon. Also, public environments like schools, supermarkets, churches must be policed by experienced police or guards… no nuts allowed in the building.

the problem is that in the US people usually shoot to KILL, and not to STOP!
 

Matt Black

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I really can't see how there can be two sides to a "human right" that allows children to be slaughtered at their schools. That just seems baffling
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I would agree that we need to find out why these things happen, but it is not a binary either/or cop out: the US isn't the only country in the world to have people with mental health issues, we have similar health problems but we don't have mass shootings
Your country then does not provide for the rights of the citizenry to own guns—-we do. We are not a socialist state bent on taking away rights of citizens. Guns are merely tool, nothing more and tools in the wrong hands will become lethal. A better job in targeting the mentally unhinged is what’s required, not gun prohibition.
 

Aaron

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I don't know Murphy. I don't even know Tillis (I just saw something pop up in the news section on my phone).

I didn't realize you were a Democrat (although in hind sight, I suppose it obvious). I do not follow politics.

But one does not have to be a Democrat to believe the shooting should not be used as a political pawn (by anybody). It is something that needs to be addressed. But not something that needs to be a political pawn.

Now is a time to morn the loss, not fight for political gain.
Blah, blah, blah. You always lead with criticisms of conservatives.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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the problem is that in the US people usually shoot to KILL, and not to STOP!
I was raised up with guns, My family are responsible gun owners. Nobody is ever harmed by our ownership. And there are many thousands of responsible American gun owners out there. Can you prohibit the criminals from owning and using guns, not likely but they will be, I assure you, the one’s using them for their mayhem.
 

5 point Gillinist

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Just watched POTUS. He’s pushing for new gun laws. He claimed two things I’ll be interested to learn if accurate.

1) he stated when the assault rifle ban passed in the 90’s, mass shootings went way down.

2) he said when that law expired, mass shootings tripled.

I think I’ve heard this argument before and it has been debunked. If I’m remembering correctly, the POTUS just engaged in a whole lot of disinformation.

I’ll wait patiently for the beg tech “fact checkers”.

peace to you

The idea that anyone who supports abortion is "outraged" by this shooting is laughable.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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A couple other things. POTUS said this man bought two assault weapons in a gun store. I haven’t heard where he got the guns, but I did read a report he had a handgun and a rifle. Perhaps he is privy to more info than they are releasing, but the investigation is very early and details will be coming out for weeks.

It is very sad POTUS has immediately used this tragedy to push the dem agenda when the facts haven’t been established yet.

peace to you
Define assault rifles
 

Reformed1689

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And people in the USA, especially those who are born again believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, continue to support the "right to bear arms"!!!

If guns were not so freely avalible, where a 18 year old can buy one, I suppose "leaglly", this would never happen. Now it is almost a weekly thing!

It is MASS MURDER by "LAW"!!!
What an asinine post. No, it is not mass murder by law. Murder is illegal in all 50 states. Using a gun to kill another person, aside from self-defense, is also illegal in all 50 states.

And no, it is not almost a weekly thing.
 

5 point Gillinist

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It's 7am here in Britain. I'm about to say goodbye to my kids as they go to school, confident that, bar some once in a generation freak atrocity, none of them are going to get shot at school. Questions:

1. How many parents here can say that?
2. When are you going to fix this?

Doesn't your country suffer from other matters such as knife attacks, acid attacks, and for a while there you were frequently getting a truck of peace, etc.?
 
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