I think therefore, as so often, we're probably talking past each other on this issue.
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The $100,000 Roman Catholic Question.
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Ps104_33,
Ps104_33,
I have PM's you twice already. And again today.
What am I to conclude by your unwillingness to answer my question?
CA
CarpentersApprentice said:Originally Posted by CarpentersApprentice
Ps104_33, In your OP what do you mean by "demonstratively traceable to the apostolic age"? CA
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Ps104_33,
I have PM's you twice already. And again today.
What am I to conclude by your unwillingness to answer my question?
CA
Matt Black said:Eliyahu, I would direct you to what GE has said on the subject of forgiveness. Yes, I know (despite your implication, which I resent, that I'm not a True Believer(TM)) that all my sins have been dealt with, paid for and forgiven at the Cross, and that the moment I turned to Christ, all my sins, past present and future were/are/will be forgiven. But that doesn't alter the fact that when I sin, my relationship with God through Jesus is damaged - I have hurt Him and it is right and proper that I seek to be reconciled with Him by apologising.i don't particularly want to get into the distinction between salvation and sanctification here, but suffice it to say that, although for salvation an act of repentance is required, for continued sanctification, continued repentance is required. That's how I read I John 1:9-2:2. Let me take an analogy from marriage: when I married my wife I made a covenant with her that stands once and for all and brought the marriage into being. But I also recognise that I offend and hurt her frequently by my actions and, in order for our relationship and marriage to be healthy, it's important that I apologise for those hurts, seek her forgiveness and thus restore the relationship. It's the same with God and me.
GE:
A beautifull and ept anology!
Gerhard Ebersoehn said:GE:
A beautifull and ept anology!
Yes, only from human view. God is different as His forgiveness is effective Once For All.
Some day you can change your thought, but otherwise it is a pity.Matt Black said:I think therefore, as so often, we're probably talking past each other on this issue.
Eliyahu said:Yes, only from human view. God is different as His forgiveness is effective Once For All.
GE:
Indeed. and for no reason other would the believer worship God constantly, praying and praising for God's forgiveness, goodness, faithfulness and trustworthiness.
But tell me, how do you get along through this difficult life of ours and with this our sinfulness always gnawing away at our souls, never asking God for forgiveness? Do you never pray: Lord forgive me, I'm a sinner? Lord be mercifull for Thou art good?
Gerhard Ebersoehn said:GE:
Indeed. and for no reason other would the believer worship God constantly, praying and praising for God's forgiveness, goodness, faithfulness and trustworthiness.
But tell me, how do you get along through this difficult life of ours and with this our sinfulness always gnawing away at our souls, never asking God for forgiveness? Do you never pray: Lord forgive me, I'm a sinner? Lord be mercifull for Thou art good?
Indeed very much often everyday I pray God, and confess my sinfulness to God. Do you know how to distinguish between CONFESS and ASK?
Did God leave anything to be done at your request?
Do you believe God has forgiven your sins?
If so, do you still request God to forgive?
What does God owe to you?
AGAIN: TELL ME what is the DIFFERENCE between CONFESS and ASK !
If you do not reply properly, it will make me doubt about your salvation!
Gerhard,
I havent asked such from God for over 20 years now. Do I sin? Of course. Have I thanked God for His mercy and forgiviness? Of course. I THANK Him for it, not ASK Him for it. Every sin that I have ever commited, or ever will commit, was placed on Christ 2000 years ago, and they were all forgiven. They are ALREADY FORGIVEN. So when I confess my faults and sins to God I THANK Him for forgiving me. The thing that I ASK Him for is more and more and more of His strenghth and new life so that I will sin less and less. As I turn from sin I ask God to replace the sin with practical rightiousness. In other words, I seek to "put on the new man" while "putting off the old man"
Yes, I do pray for that. I certainly pray for Gods mercy. But not for the forgiveness of my sins. My sins were forgiven 2000 years ago. That would be like going into the CEO's office at the hospital where I work and begging him every other Friday to please pay me this week. He'd look at me like I was crazy. He'd say "Mike...we promised you when we hired you 12 years ago that we would deposit your pay for each period into your bank account every other Friday, and we have never missed one. Why are you begging us to pay you??? Do you think we ar a bunch of liars or something?"
I dont ask God to forgive my sins any more, because HE HAS DONE IT. He DID IT 2000 years ago on the cross, and it became effectual over 20 years ago when I embraced Christ and was forgiven of all my sins. What I do a lot of is THANK HIM for his forgiviness, because...unfortunetly...I give him far too many reasons to be thanked for His forgiveness.
Praise God the longer I live for Him the more I grow into the "new man" I became 2 decades ago.
God tells us in Ephesians...
"Giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light. He has delivered us from the power of darkness and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgivness of sins."
And in Acts...
"I will deliver you from the Jewish as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you. To open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may recieve the forginess of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in me."
God bless,
Mike
"Indeed. and for no reason other would the believer worship God constantly, praying and praising for God's forgiveness, goodness, faithfulness and trustworthiness.
But tell me, how do you get along through this difficult life of ours and with this our sinfulness always gnawing away at our souls, never asking God for forgiveness? Do you never pray: Lord forgive me, I'm a sinner?"
I havent asked such from God for over 20 years now. Do I sin? Of course. Have I thanked God for His mercy and forgiviness? Of course. I THANK Him for it, not ASK Him for it. Every sin that I have ever commited, or ever will commit, was placed on Christ 2000 years ago, and they were all forgiven. They are ALREADY FORGIVEN. So when I confess my faults and sins to God I THANK Him for forgiving me. The thing that I ASK Him for is more and more and more of His strenghth and new life so that I will sin less and less. As I turn from sin I ask God to replace the sin with practical rightiousness. In other words, I seek to "put on the new man" while "putting off the old man"
"...Lord be mercifull for Thou art good?"
Yes, I do pray for that. I certainly pray for Gods mercy. But not for the forgiveness of my sins. My sins were forgiven 2000 years ago. That would be like going into the CEO's office at the hospital where I work and begging him every other Friday to please pay me this week. He'd look at me like I was crazy. He'd say "Mike...we promised you when we hired you 12 years ago that we would deposit your pay for each period into your bank account every other Friday, and we have never missed one. Why are you begging us to pay you??? Do you think we ar a bunch of liars or something?"
I dont ask God to forgive my sins any more, because HE HAS DONE IT. He DID IT 2000 years ago on the cross, and it became effectual over 20 years ago when I embraced Christ and was forgiven of all my sins. What I do a lot of is THANK HIM for his forgiviness, because...unfortunetly...I give him far too many reasons to be thanked for His forgiveness.
Praise God the longer I live for Him the more I grow into the "new man" I became 2 decades ago.
God tells us in Ephesians...
"Giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light. He has delivered us from the power of darkness and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgivness of sins."
And in Acts...
"I will deliver you from the Jewish as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you. To open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may recieve the forginess of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in me."
God bless,
Mike
So you don't seek restoration of your relationship with God in your daily walk with Him? How odd...
Doubting Thomas
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(Lent break...)
John says IF we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to cleanse us of all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). He doesn't say that God has already forgiven us every sin we've ever or will ever committ irrespective of our confession. John also say IF we walk in the Light, the blood of Christ cleanses us (present tense) from all sin (v.7). He doesn't say we are cleansed regardless of whether or not we are walking in the Light. (I recommend everyone read the entire first epistle of John--it'll disabuse one of the notion of antinomianism rather quick)
Peter says if one lacks certain things which we must add to our faith--virtue, knowledge, self-control, perserverence, godliness, brotherly kindness, and love--that one is shortsighted and forgetful that he was purged (past tense) of his OLD sins (2 Peter 1:9--in context of v.5-11). He doen't say that we were already purged (past tense) of ALL the sins we'd ever commit in the future. On the contrary, Peter goes on to say that our entrance into the kingdom was contingent on our adding those things (v.5-7) to our faith (v.10-11)--not that our entrance into the kingdom was a foregone conclusion based on a one-time expression of faith.
So according to Christ and the Apostles, there is no notion of a blanket once-for-all-time forgiveness of every sin ever to be committed based on an initial decision to follow Christ irrespective of an ongoing continuance in the faith (or lack thereof). Such a notion, while endemic to the modern pseudo-'gospel' of easy-believism and the cult of instant-once-for-all-conversionism, was not only foreign to the teaching of the Apostles and the belief of early Christians, but indeed is contrary to the authentic, historic biblical Gospel of ongoing repentance and taking up our crosses daily and following Christ and abiding in HIM.
(...back to Lent)
Especially when, for instance, Christ said IF we don't forgive others, THEN our Heavenly Father won't forgive us our sins either (Matthew 18:35). It sure doesn't sound like that we're pre-emptively forgiven of every sin we'll ever commit in the future the moment we initially "accept Christ". Forgiveness is indeed found in Christ based on WHO He is and WHAT He objectively accomplished, but actually being "in Christ" and subjectively receiving ongoing forgiveness/remission is conditional on us repenting, confessing, continuing in the faith, forgiving others, etc.Matt Black said:So you don't seek restoration of your relationship with God in your daily walk with Him? How odd...
John says IF we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to cleanse us of all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). He doesn't say that God has already forgiven us every sin we've ever or will ever committ irrespective of our confession. John also say IF we walk in the Light, the blood of Christ cleanses us (present tense) from all sin (v.7). He doesn't say we are cleansed regardless of whether or not we are walking in the Light. (I recommend everyone read the entire first epistle of John--it'll disabuse one of the notion of antinomianism rather quick)
Peter says if one lacks certain things which we must add to our faith--virtue, knowledge, self-control, perserverence, godliness, brotherly kindness, and love--that one is shortsighted and forgetful that he was purged (past tense) of his OLD sins (2 Peter 1:9--in context of v.5-11). He doen't say that we were already purged (past tense) of ALL the sins we'd ever commit in the future. On the contrary, Peter goes on to say that our entrance into the kingdom was contingent on our adding those things (v.5-7) to our faith (v.10-11)--not that our entrance into the kingdom was a foregone conclusion based on a one-time expression of faith.
So according to Christ and the Apostles, there is no notion of a blanket once-for-all-time forgiveness of every sin ever to be committed based on an initial decision to follow Christ irrespective of an ongoing continuance in the faith (or lack thereof). Such a notion, while endemic to the modern pseudo-'gospel' of easy-believism and the cult of instant-once-for-all-conversionism, was not only foreign to the teaching of the Apostles and the belief of early Christians, but indeed is contrary to the authentic, historic biblical Gospel of ongoing repentance and taking up our crosses daily and following Christ and abiding in HIM.
(...back to Lent)
Amen:thumbs: . It's not that Christ didn't make His atoning sacrifice once and for all sins; it's that we need to remain in Him for those fruits of forgiveness to be appropriated to our lives.
Matt,
Do you actually believe that every time you sin you become a lost hell bound sinner again? And you spend the rest of your life flipping back and forth? Saved..lost again...saved again....hellbound again...saved again...belong to the devil again...belong to God again...the devils child again....etc etc etc?
In Ephesians God...through Paul...is adressing christians who are stealing, lying, using corrupt language, engaging in courseness, commiting fornication, etc. And the admonition is that they need to stop doing that because they are saints. They are a child of the light...but they are acting like children of darkness. God tells them to stop doing what they are doing because its inconsistant with who...they...are.
Born again children of the King.
After admonishing them for their inconsistant living, God says...
"For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of the light."
He tells those stealing to stop because as christians they should be "giving to them that are in need"
To those allowing corrupt communication to come from their mouth He tells them they should stop because as christians they should be "imparting grace to the hearers" with their communication.
Fornication should not be named among them because its "not fitting for saints".
God bless,
Mike
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So you don't seek restoration of your relationship with God in your daily walk with Him? How odd..."
Do you actually believe that every time you sin you become a lost hell bound sinner again? And you spend the rest of your life flipping back and forth? Saved..lost again...saved again....hellbound again...saved again...belong to the devil again...belong to God again...the devils child again....etc etc etc?
In Ephesians God...through Paul...is adressing christians who are stealing, lying, using corrupt language, engaging in courseness, commiting fornication, etc. And the admonition is that they need to stop doing that because they are saints. They are a child of the light...but they are acting like children of darkness. God tells them to stop doing what they are doing because its inconsistant with who...they...are.
Born again children of the King.
After admonishing them for their inconsistant living, God says...
"For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of the light."
He tells those stealing to stop because as christians they should be "giving to them that are in need"
To those allowing corrupt communication to come from their mouth He tells them they should stop because as christians they should be "imparting grace to the hearers" with their communication.
Fornication should not be named among them because its "not fitting for saints".
God bless,
Mike
Doubting Thomas
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(I know I'm not Matt, but...)
"But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you as is fitting for the saints, neither filthiness nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather the giving of thanks, For this you know, that NO fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous person, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them." (Ephesians 5:3-7)
So Paul is telling them not to do those things, not merely because it's inconsistent with being a saint, but also because those who do those things...have...no..."inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and God". Paul didn't make an exception for "saved" folks--he didn't say "no fornicator, unclean person nor covetous person, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God UNLESS he 'got saved' at some point in his life". If a believer becomes a partaker again with those things that the "sons of disobedience" practice, he will suffer the same fate...unless...he...repents.
While we're in Ephesians...D28guy said:Matt,
In Ephesians God...through Paul...is adressing christians who are stealing, lying, using corrupt language, engaging in courseness, commiting fornication, etc. And the admonition is that they need to stop doing that because they are saints. They are a child of the light...but they are acting like children of darkness. God tells them to stop doing what they are doing because its inconsistant with who...they...are.
"But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you as is fitting for the saints, neither filthiness nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather the giving of thanks, For this you know, that NO fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous person, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them." (Ephesians 5:3-7)
So Paul is telling them not to do those things, not merely because it's inconsistent with being a saint, but also because those who do those things...have...no..."inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and God". Paul didn't make an exception for "saved" folks--he didn't say "no fornicator, unclean person nor covetous person, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God UNLESS he 'got saved' at some point in his life". If a believer becomes a partaker again with those things that the "sons of disobedience" practice, he will suffer the same fate...unless...he...repents.
So King David is not in heaven??Doubting Thomas said:(I know I'm not Matt, but...)
So Paul is telling them not to do those things, not merely because it's inconsistent with being a saint, but also because those who do those things...have...no..."inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and God". Paul didn't make an exception for "saved" folks--he didn't say "no fornicator, unclean person nor covetous person, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God UNLESS he 'got saved' at some point in his life". If a believer becomes a partaker again with those things that the "sons of disobedience" practice, he will suffer the same fate...unless...he...repents.
Doubting Thomas
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Read again the last three words in my quote box in your post: "unless...he...repents"DHK said:So King David is not in heaven??
I am fully aware that he repented. Note that David did not repent of his sin until Nathan went to him and pointed it out to him. Thus his repentance was not immediate.Doubting Thomas said:Read again the last three words in my quote box in your post.
1. If David suffered a heart attack before Nathan arrived would David had gone to heaven?
2. David's standing before God was not dependant on his works, but rather his belief in Jehovah who had declared him righteous in spite of his sin--future or past. David testifies to this himself:
Romans 4:6-8 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
5 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
6 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
(Cf. Psalm 32:1,2)
3. When David repented and confessed his sin, he never asked "to be saved." He already was. He was one of the righteous. In fact he was still a man after God's own heart. Scripture declared him to be. What he prayed for was:
Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
--It was not salvation; but the joy of the salvation that he already had that we was praying for. That is a big difference. He offended his father. He was not kicked out of the family. He wanted the joy and fellowship that he had before he had offended his father.
Who did he sin against. Did he confess his sin against Bathsheba and Uriah?
Psalms 51:4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.
--He knew that his offence was against God. His relationship with God needed to be restored. He didn't need to be saved. He was already righteous. He needed to restore a broken relationship.
Doubting Thomas said:(Lent break...)
Especially when, for instance, Christ said IF we don't forgive others, THEN our Heavenly Father won't forgive us our sins either (Matthew 18:35). It sure doesn't sound like that we're pre-emptively forgiven of every sin we'll ever commit in the future the moment we initially "accept Christ". Forgiveness is indeed found in Christ based on WHO He is and WHAT He objectively accomplished, but actually being "in Christ" and subjectively receiving ongoing forgiveness/remission is conditional on us repenting, confessing, continuing in the faith, forgiving others, etc.
Have you read John 20:23?
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
Why is this current Passive? ( not the future tense!)
Read carefully what I pointed out. I didn't complain about asking forgiveness itself. But all the time I pointed out that Catholic Mass ask God to forgive the sins, without ever bringing the Gospel that even the sins that they asked the forgiveness for were alreay forgiven!
Could you understand that?
I would not mind how you can compromise this contradiction, but you must present how such contradiction was resolved, if you really received the forgiveness from God.
The Contradiction is here:
You confess and thank God for the fact that all of your sins were forgiven at the Cross - 1 minute ago.
1 minute later. Oh God, please forgive my sins! ( I don't believe what Jesus had done at the Cross, to be frank! Oh God!)
How do you compromise for yourself?
I told you my testimony enough if you read my post. Therefore, please, please, let me know how God forgive you and how you could compromise such contradiction. What was the answer from God when you asked Him to forgive? Have you ever prayed to God until you get the answer from Him?
John says IF we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to cleanse us of all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). He doesn't say that God has already forgiven us every sin we've ever or will ever committ irrespective of our confession. John also say IF we walk in the Light, the blood of Christ cleanses us (present tense) from all sin (v.7). He doesn't say we are cleansed regardless of whether or not we are walking in the Light. (I recommend everyone read the entire first epistle of John--it'll disabuse one of the notion of antinomianism rather quick)
Tell me your actual experience! Hope you know the difference between CONFESS sins and ASK Forgiveness of sins.
Tell me your actual testimony! How did God forgive your sins?
Peter says if one lacks certain things which we must add to our faith--virtue, knowledge, self-control, perserverence, godliness, brotherly kindness, and love--that one is shortsighted and forgetful that he was purged (past tense) of his OLD sins (2 Peter 1:9--in context of v.5-11).
Your type of religion is really Blind man's moral and therefore your logic is very much reasonable for human moral. But Christianity is totally different.
You sound like the man who never heard the answer from God, who never experienced the total forgiveness of sins, and have no experience of daily guidance by the Holy Spirit who directs the believers to the truth by letting them carry their own crosses.
He doen't say that we were already purged (past tense) of ALL the sins we'd ever commit in the future. On the contrary, Peter goes on to say that our entrance into the kingdom was contingent on our adding those things (v.5-7) to our faith (v.10-11)--not that our entrance into the kingdom was a foregone conclusion based on a one-time expression of faith.
So, do you need another Cross for your future sins?
What you are saying is :
Past sins were forgiven at the Cross.
Future sins were not forgiven, but will be forgiven if you repent and ask for the forgiveness.
Right? The grace of God depends on your work!
But when you got the forgiveness for the past sins, didn't you find that your sins were forgiven already at the Cross regardless of what you have done?
Then even the future sins were forgiven at the Cross regardless of what you will do, aren't they?
Do you know even your past was the future at the time when Jesus died at the Cross?
Again, you must remember this:
Catholic Mass never brings that those sins were already forgiven at the Cross. Then how does God forgive those sins which the priests all the time asked the forgiveness for ?
So according to Christ and the Apostles, there is no notion of a blanket once-for-all-time forgiveness of every sin ever to be committed based on an initial decision to follow Christ irrespective of an ongoing continuance in the faith (or lack thereof). Such a notion, while endemic to the modern pseudo-'gospel' of easy-believism and the cult of instant-once-for-all-conversionism, was not only foreign to the teaching of the Apostles and the belief of early Christians, but indeed is contrary to the authentic, historic biblical Gospel of ongoing repentance and taking up our crosses daily and following Christ and abiding in HIM.
(...back to Lent)
Hope you read this:
1 John 2:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Is the forgiveness conditional on your repentance? or God has forgiven your sins unconditionally but you are trying to build up your own righteousness, right? You may not understand this, which is a pity!
Your Lent sounds very similar to Buddhists' repent and hard-work Buddhism.
The True Christianity starts from what Jesus Christ has done at the Cross.
We believe Him and what He did at the Cross.
All the religion in the world ask the people to do something, do repent and some hard work. But the Christianity is different. The True Christianity is to believe what Jesus has done, which makes enormous change in the life style of the believers.
I guess you never experienced the true blessings from the Forgiveness of sins.
What Jesus has done at the Cross remain secret to the people who do not repent, to the unbelievers.
Even after the salvation, if the believer commit sins and don't repent and confess his sins, then the Gospel that even such sins were forgiven at the Cross is not discovered by him. That is why we need to CONFESS our sins to God, then God forgive our sins by revealing the Truth that even such sins were included in the forgiveness which was done at the Cross.
I explained this many times on this board, but many church-goers do not understand it because they are spiritually blinded, which is a great pity.
Tell me how God forgave you when you asked HIm to forgive your sins.
Is Mass still right when the priests never deliver the Gospel that all the sins including what he asked the forgiveness for were already forgiven?
Catholics are strongly confessing at the Mass that they do not believe what Jesus Christ has done at the Cross. They strongly believe that IT IS NOT FINISHED.
IT IS NOT FINISHED!
That is why they continue the Fake-Sacrifice every week!
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Matt Black said:So you don't seek restoration of your relationship with God in your daily walk with Him? How odd...
I restore the relationship with God by CONFESSING my sins everyday.
Do you ASK GOD to forgive your sins? I can understand it! Because you don't believe that your sins were forgiven already!
iN ANY CASE I think you acknowledge that Catholic do not bring the Gospel at the Mass that all the sins were forgiven at the Cross.
Some sins are left unforgiven to Catholics, and that " some sins" are always following them.
From my experience, 1 John 1:9-10 and 2:2 are very good to discern between the truly born again and fake Christians!
Fake Christians never had the experience of hearing the Answer from God for the forgiveness of sins.
Only Guess works by the Churchmen and Churchwomen!
They go away before getting any answer from God after pouring out many prayers, because they love the world and they have many things to do after leaving God. They expect that many words of their prayers may be enough to God, and therefore leave God without receiving the Answer from God.
Fake Christians can never anwer my question : What was the Answer from God when you prayed God to forgive your sins?
Not the theory, but yourn vivid experience will be appreciated!
Fake Christians never had the experience of hearing the Answer from God for the forgiveness of sins.
Only Guess works by the Churchmen and Churchwomen!
They go away before getting any answer from God after pouring out many prayers, because they love the world and they have many things to do after leaving God. They expect that many words of their prayers may be enough to God, and therefore leave God without receiving the Answer from God.
Fake Christians can never anwer my question : What was the Answer from God when you prayed God to forgive your sins?
Not the theory, but yourn vivid experience will be appreciated!
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What is mainly involved in Confessing Sins?
Repent-Brokenhearted humbleness-Abhorrence of sins-Looking at Jesus Christ and His Cross.
How does God forgive our sins?
He doesn't make a new atonement for our sins, but enlighten us by the Holy Spirit that even such sins were already included in the forgiveness at the Cross.
How did God forgive you your sins committed daily?
Tell me your testimony and your actual experience on how God answered your request for the forgiveness!
Repent-Brokenhearted humbleness-Abhorrence of sins-Looking at Jesus Christ and His Cross.
How does God forgive our sins?
He doesn't make a new atonement for our sins, but enlighten us by the Holy Spirit that even such sins were already included in the forgiveness at the Cross.
How did God forgive you your sins committed daily?
Tell me your testimony and your actual experience on how God answered your request for the forgiveness!
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