The 5 Points that lead me out of Calvinism

[savedbymercy]

I wouldn't necessarily say that's a Calvinist tactic. It's a savedbymercy tactic. Look at any of his posts. He doesn't debate or discuss. His answer is almost literally 100% "go over my points with me so I know you understood them". Any questions directed towards him are immediately dismissed by that answer.

If you're going to debate what I said, you don't evade what I said, and you should prove that you understand what I said, then we proceed from there, otherwise you are not debating what I stated !

 

[DHK]

No they are not valid points ! And those in Acts 7 couldn't believe on Christ because they were not of God, they were uncircumcised in ears and heart, spiritually dead ! A person must be of God to Hear God's words in a spiritual way, that is what Jesus stated John 8:47 ! To be of God is to be born of God !

A "savedbymercy tactic" That is what the others are saying, and that is correct. You didn't address a single point in the post. You simply dismissed them.
Answer the post instead. Demonstrate why it is wrong.

 

[savedbymercy]

A "savedbymercy tactic" That is what the others are saying, and that is correct. You didn't address a single point in the post. You simply dismissed them.
Answer the post instead. Demonstrate why it is wrong.

They were invalid and evasive from the points I made !

 

[OldRegular]

I wouldn't necessarily say that's a Calvinist tactic. It's a savedbymercy tactic. Look at any of his posts. He doesn't debate or discuss. His answer is almost literally 100% "go over my points with me so I know you understood them". Any questions directed towards him are immediately dismissed by that answer.

I wonder why people want to join whatever game "savedbymercy" is playing. Just ignore him/her!

 

[DHK]

They were invalid and evasive from the points I made !

That is your opinion and it is "invalid and evasive from the points I have made."
If what you say is true take my post and point by point show me where it is wrong. You can't do that can you?

 

[savedbymercy]

That is your opinion and it is "invalid and evasive from the points I have made."
If what you say is true take my post and point by point show me where it is wrong. You can't do that can you?

I already told you, it was invalid and evasive, if you want to know what part, all of it , from the first word to the last, is that clear enough for you ?

 

[DHK]

I already told you, it was invalid and evasive, if you want to know what part, all of it , from the first word to the last, is that clear enough for you ?

It is clear enough to me that you have no intention of debate, discussion, learning, etc.
Why are you here? There are other places where you can feed your fodder.

 

[savedbymercy]

It is clear enough to me that you have no intention of debate, discussion, learning, etc.
Why are you here? There are other places where you can feed your fodder.

I'm here posting, look at my threads !

 

[DHK]

I'm here posting, look at my threads !

Typing on a keyboard and making words into sentences is not debating. This is a debate forum. If you are not willing to debate I suggest you do something else. There is another forum--Other discussions--where you can post about the weather and cars, etc.
But this is a debate forum.
Here you are not even willing to give your testimony when asked.
You won't refute a passage of Scripture, but simply dismiss it.
You use an arrogant attitude and just dismiss other peoples' positions outright without any valid reason. That is not debate.
If you are not willing to debate, go elsewhere.

 

[savedbymercy]

Typing on a keyboard and making words into sentences is not debating. This is a debate forum. If you are not willing to debate I suggest you do something else. There is another forum--Other discussions--where you can post about the weather and cars, etc.
But this is a debate forum.
Here you are not even willing to give your testimony when asked.
You won't refute a passage of Scripture, but simply dismiss it.
You use an arrogant attitude and just dismisses other peoples' positions outright without any valid reason. That is not debate.
If you are not willing to debate, go elsewhere.

Typing on a keyboard and making words into sentences is not debating. This is a debate forum. If you are not willing to debate I suggest you do something else. There is another forum--Other discussions--where you can post about the weather and cars, etc.
But this is a debate forum.
Here you are not even willing to give your testimony when asked.
You won't refute a passage of Scripture, but simply dismiss it.
You use an arrogant attitude and just dismisses other peoples' positions outright without any valid reason. That is not debate.
If you are not willing to debate, go elsewhere.

How can you debate and or discuss what I post when you evade it like a scared rabbit ? As far as my testimony goes I gave to you two years ago before you banned me ! If it's that valuable to you, you should have printed out that post and put it in your files ! I am not going to give it again, whether you like it or not. You should be able to tell what I believe by what I post ! Now are you going to deal with the fact that those in Acts 7 were uncircumcised in ears and heart lost men and had no ability to believe in Christ ?

 

[DHK]

How can you discuss or debate what I post if you evade it like a scared rabbit ?

That is false. I have answered all of your posts. I refute them, give the context, show how you take them out of context, and then when you have no answer you dismiss it outright. That has been the pattern hasn't it. Go back and read it for yourself.
You have been refuted every time.

 

[savedbymercy]

That is false. I have answered all of your posts. I refute them, give the context, show how you take them out of context, and then when you have no answer you dismiss it outright. That has been the pattern hasn't it. Go back and read it for yourself.
You have been refuted every time.

Yeah you answered them with evasive rabbit trail comments !

 

[DHK]

Yeah you answered them with evasive rabbit trail comments !

Answer in detail this post:
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2180081&postcount=191

And this post:
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2180082&postcount=192

Show your sincerity in debating by answering in detail these two posts.

 

[savedbymercy]

Answer in detail this post:
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2180081&postcount=191

And this post:
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2180082&postcount=192

Show your sincerity in debating by answering in detail these two posts.

I'm going to show my sincerity by telling you in front of everyone, I am not answering nothing about what you asked in detail in those posts ! Is that sincere enough for you ?

 

[DHK]

I'm going to show my sincerity by telling you in front of everyone, I am not answering nothing about what you asked in detail in those posts ! Is that sincere enough for you ?

No, it simply demonstrates your unwillingness to debate; or perhaps to admit when you are defeated in debate and admit that your position is wrong. Perhaps that is the real problem. You cannot bring yourself to admit that you are wrong. That is the reason you cannot reply to these posts.

 

[savedbymercy]

No, it simply demonstrates your unwillingness to debate; or perhaps to admit when you are defeated in debate and admit that your position is wrong. Perhaps that is the real problem. You cannot bring yourself to admit that you are wrong. That is the reason you cannot reply to these posts.

Who do you think you are dictating what I should debate ?

 

[DHK]

Who do you think you are dictating what I should debate ?

In post #191 I showed how you have taken the Scripture you use out of context. In fact, concerning Rom.2:29 I went through the entire chapter. But you, in one sentence simply said I was wrong. That is not debate. Show me how I was wrong; how my exposition of the entire chapter was wrong.

The same goes for 2Cor.4:3,4. Show me where my explanation to you is wrong.

Then in post #192: this is where the rubber meets the road.
If the gospel is for the saved and not for the lost, then how did you get saved?
Answer the questions pertaining to your own salvation.
Were you never a lost person?
Jesus said: "I came to seek and to save the lost."

 

[savedbymercy]

In post #191 I showed how you have taken the Scripture you use out of context. In fact, concerning Rom.2:29 I went through the entire chapter. But you, in one sentence simply said I was wrong. That is not debate. Show me how I was wrong; how my exposition of the entire chapter was wrong.

The same goes for 2Cor.4:3,4. Show me where my explanation to you is wrong.

Then in post #192: this is where the rubber meets the road.
If the gospel is for the saved and not for the lost, then how did you get saved?
Answer the questions pertaining to your own salvation.
Were you never a lost person?
Jesus said: "I came to seek and to save the lost."

Your whole post as I stated was invalid and a rabbit trail ! Start from the first word and read it to the Last word and thats what is invalid and evasive !

As far as my own Salvation, I gave you a Testimony Two Years ago, you should have kept it .

As far as 2 Cor 4:3-4 goes, what it teaches still stands, those who are in a Lost state, the Gospel is hid from them, their minds are blinded by the god of this world, that they believe not 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The Gospel is hid to them that are Lost, nothing you can do or say to change it !

 

[PreachTony]

As far as 2 Cor 4:3-4 goes, what it teaches still stands, those who are in a Lost state, the Gospel is hid from them, their minds are blinded by the god of this world, that they believe not 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The Gospel is hid to them that are Lost, nothing you can do or say to change it !

You still don't understand the function of the word "IF" in 2 Cor 4:3, do you? The verse reads "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost." It does not read "But our gospel is hidden, and it is hidden to the lost," as you are advocating. You keep skipping over the word "IF" as though it were a set-in-stone truth that the gospel is absolutely hidden from the entirety of lost humanity. But the "IF" informs the remainder of the verses, setting a condition on the gospel. If Paul had stopped preaching, then the gospel would be hidden. So long as a preacher is there, the gospel is not hidden. Your statements that you are right and we are wrong, and nothing we can do will change the text are wrong. While it is becoming more and more apparent that nothing we do will change the way you've chosen to interpret the text, I will stand comfortably in the interpretation I have always known of this verse.

I'll even tell you this, savedbymercy...this scripture is the source of the first message I ever preached. The Sunday morning that I announced my calling into the ministry, I had been reading from 2 Corinthians for some time, and the Spirit kept bringing this word back to me, as an "oh me" kind of moment, as I had tried running from the calling. I can remember feeling the guiding hand of God as I preached about sitting down on the Word, and thereby hiding the gospel. I know what the Lord led me to that morning, in the scriptures and in prayer. It was definitely not the doctrine you are trying to pronounce.

 

[OldRegular]

I wonder why people want to join whatever game "savedbymercy" is playing. Just ignore him/her!

Folks there is a verse of Scripture that is applicable here:

Matthew 7:6. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.