The Bible says a lot of things

First,
Sir you can google the official catholic position we have a catechism it is not secret. This is only the 5th time throughout this year explaining it to you. We are going to have this conversation again I bet.

You will see the fate of good Muslim and Jews, I will paste it here:
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The Church and non-Christians

839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."325

The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ",328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329

840 And when one considers the future, God's People of the Old Covenant and the new People of God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ Jesus.

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

842 The Church's bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race:
All nations form but one community. This is so because all stem from the one stock which God created to people the entire earth, and also because all share a common destiny, namely God. His providence, evident goodness, and saving designs extend to all against the day when the elect are gathered together in the holy city. . .331
843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life."332

844 In their religious behavior, however, men also display the limits and errors that disfigure the image of God in them:



Very often, deceived by the Evil One, men have become vain in their reasonings, and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and served the creature rather than the Creator. Or else, living and dying in this world without God, they are exposed to ultimate despair.333
845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.334
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Second you keep trying to derail and deceptively go off topic in order to hide your LIE.

This thread is about how you lie about the #1 rule in scripture and then you don't provide the verse to support your biblical teaching.
My being Catholic has nothing to do with it.

Third when you think someone is anti-christ for being opposed to Hitler, time to get that bigot-brain checked.


See when someone makes up a LIE then swears that LIE is in the bible, That is a True Rejector of Jesus Christ not the Muslim or Jew.

Christians, Muslims and Jews all worship the God of Abraham, there is only one God.

False prophets and deceivers they try to pass their philosophy and Lies as scriptural truth.

The only thing I did is ask for a bible verse. AND YOU COULD NOT DO IT. You failed to hold up your unbiblical heresy.

 

The witness teaching that if I do not speak in tongues then I am not saved? Or the witness teaching that everyone is saved? Or the witness teaching that if I want to talk to Jesus, I should go through his mother? Or the witness of the Southern Baptists that deny all of these other witness and urge me to read for myself what the Cornerstone and Foundation said?

There are people building all sorts of crazy things that do not align with the 'foundation' of this Church that Christ is building. I see that as a problem and not a feature.

 

No, "divided bits of the Church" <> "The Church"

 

Forgive me, but I come to Christianity from a family legacy of atheism ... so what is this "The Church" of which you speak? From where I sit, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting one church or another. I drive past five or six to attend the one that I happen to attend.

 

So your religion is as you say. This teaching is antichrist according to John (Scripture) so you prove here that the Catechism is against the Scripture and that it is merely sinful man making things up as they go along. The Catechism you posted is in direct opposition to John....

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." (1Jo 2:22) Does your good Jew and good Muslim deny Jesus is the Christ?

"And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." (1Jo 4:3) Does your good Jew and good Muslim confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh? Key word "Christ", Messiah!

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2Jo 1:7)

So why are you here on this board? Is it to learn the truth or is it to sow the RCC lies? Your position is antichrist, that's not according to me, that is according to John. How do you defend yourself? With the Catechism? With man's word? Why do you reject God's Word?

 

That's Gnosticism. That's not Christianity.

 

Did Jesus's model prayer begin with "Our Old Man who is in heaven..."?

 

Church History is a wonderful topic to explore in and of itself, yielding great rewards. I'm talking about the Undivided Church prior to 1054 in particular. You might also want to check out Vincent of Lérins' dictum.

 

In a sense, yes: He used the intimate, familiar word, "Abba", when referring to His Father, in much the same way as a working class bloke from round here might say "My Old Man".

 

Gnostics believe that having particular knowledge saves the person.

 

Revelations 22
18I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

You reject the word of God by claiming lies as biblical and then not showing the verse.


You are OFF TOPIC.

Why don't you get back on topic? Start another thread about not having the knowledge to look up a catholic catechism, i'll be happy to monkey stomp you there

You should have won this debate with flying colors. But since you have no scripture to support your unbiblical rule, you fail.

False prophets and deceivers they try to pass their philosophy and Lies as scriptural truth.

The only thing I did is ask for a bible verse. AND YOU COULD NOT DO IT. You failed to hold up your unbiblical bigot heresy.

 

I don’t know. I would expect something a little more dramatic from the Son of God. I mean, He shows up at a wedding and changes water into wine, and shows up at a funeral and resurrects the guest of honor.

Closing the thread per SOP is definitely the Apostle, Prophet, Teacher thing to do ... the Big Guy just tends to be more disruptive.