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The Bible Teaches that Repentance and Faith are Gifts from God.

Silverhair

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You showing that you are calling Jesus Christ a failure. Its His responsibility to save who God wants saved. Didnt He come to save that which was lost ? Lk 19:10 Are these the Father desires to be saved in 1 Tim 2:4

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Are they part of them that are Lost that He come to save Lk 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Christ is not a failure BF your view is.

Your post # 88
"Its on Christ to save all whom the Father wants to be saved. What did the Father send the Son to do ? Lk 19:10
10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Was He successful ? Did He seek and save all God wants to be saved ? Yes or No"


Did Christ seek all that God wants to be saved YES, did all get saved NO.

Why were not all saved BF?

Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Christ accomplished what the father sent Him to do, save those who would freely trust in Him for their salvation.
 

Brightfame52

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BF you are jumping from what you posited that all Israel, the nation, Act 5:31 would be saved, which is not true. To all Israel, those of the same faith as Abraham, will be saved Rom 11:26, which is true.

This shows why you have made so many logical errors in your thinking.
You love to run to the word all like in Jn 12:32 so what does Paul mean when he says "so ALL Israel shall be saved" Rom 11:26

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Does all mean all ? lol
 

Silverhair

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@Silverhair



So when God gives repentance to an individual its by New Birth, so when a person repents towards God and Faith in Christ Acts 20:21

21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

They were born again. We cant repent towards God and have Faith toward Christ unless born again

BF you continue to ignore what the the bible says and reverse the order of salvation so it fits your errant religious view. Even the verse you quoted, Act 20:21, does not help your case.

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

What did Paul teach
1] repentance toward God
2] faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ

ph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

I am sorry that you have been mislead to trust the calvinist dogma rather than the word of God. You are following a pagan philosophy from the 4th century.
 

Brightfame52

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BF you continue to ignore what the the bible says and reverse the order of salvation so it fits your errant religious view. Even the verse you quoted, Act 20:21, does not help your case.

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

What did Paul teach
1] repentance toward God
2] faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ

ph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

I am sorry that you have been mislead to trust the calvinist dogma rather than the word of God. You are following a pagan philosophy from the 4th century.
Repentance, a change of mind towards God is by means of the New Birth. Did you know that the New Birth/regeneration is a Gift.
 

Silverhair

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You love to run to the word all like in Jn 12:32 so what does Paul mean when he says "so ALL Israel shall be saved" Rom 11:26

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Does all mean all ? lol

You are sounding desperate BF.

Do you not believe that Christ would draw all mankind to Himself through the cross? Jn 12:32

To all Israel, ALL those of the same faith as Abraham, will be saved Rom 11:26, which is true.

You continue to pull out of context verses in the attempt to support your failed views.
 
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