The Bible Teaches that Repentance and Faith are Gifts from God.

[Silverhair]

Lol, it doesnt matter what you cant find

Well BF if it is not scriptural then why do you use it?

This does seem to be a habit of yours. Make things up and then when you are called on it just say you do not care what the word of God say.

So it is no the bible you believe but yourself.

 

[Silverhair]

Also the hearing of Faith can only apply to the already Justified/righteous. All whom Jesus made righteous/just shall be made to hear Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous or just. Same word in the original.

So the promise to the just is this Rom 1:17

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

You have the weirdest way of understanding the word of God that I have ever come across.

You are going to have a real hard time explaining your strange theology when you stand in front of Jesus.

You have made up a religion that has nothing to do with scripture as written by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Brightfame52]

Well BF if it is not scriptural then why do you use it?

This does seem to be a habit of yours. Make things up and then when you are called on it just say you do not care what the word of God say.

So it is no the bible you believe but yourself.

Ive given you scripture for everything I believe and you deny it and say Im taking it out of context, so stop the charade.

 

[Brightfame52]

You have the weirdest way of understanding the word of God that I have ever come across.

You are going to have a real hard time explaining your strange theology when you stand in front of Jesus.

You have made up a religion that has nothing to do with scripture as written by the Holy Spirit.

See I gave you scripture and look at your respond lol

 

[Brightfame52]

I'm going to share a few scriptures on repentance. Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18

18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Acts 20:21

21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

The greek word for repentance in these verses is metanoia and means:

change of mind, repentance

Usage: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.

Notice also in Acts 5 and Acts 11 the God is said to give or grant this repentance. This repentance towards God is something man doesn't have naturally, it must be furnished by God. Its Gods Gift to His Chosen People.

 

[Silverhair]

Ive given you scripture for everything I believe and you deny it and say Im taking it out of context, so stop the charade.

You cherry pick out of context verses or parts of verses that you think support your view and come up with things like your "spiritual hearing" which is not biblical. So the only one playing games with the word of God is you BF.

I just point out the errors of your view.

 

[Silverhair]

See I gave you scripture and look at your respond lol

Patching together out of context verses does not help you BF. What you are doing is no different than the WoF charlatans.

You are not trusting the whole word of God but yourself.

 

[Silverhair]

I'm going to share a few scriptures on repentance. Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18

18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Acts 20:21

21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

The greek word for repentance in these verses is metanoia and means:

change of mind, repentance

Usage: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.

Notice also in Acts 5 and Acts 11 the God is said to give or grant this repentance. This repentance towards God is something man doesn't have naturally, it must be furnished by God. Its Gods Gift to His Chosen People.

Repentance is something that the man must do as God does not do it for them. God does not just hear the words, He also looks at the heart. Anyone who has a sincere desire to come to Jesus Christ for forgiveness will be saved.

To that we can see in Act 17:30 "Although God overlooked the ignorance of earlier times, He now commands all people everywhere to repent."

Why would God call “all people everywhere” to “repent” if most are not "His Chosen People" and have no ability to do so? Are you saying that God is disingenuous?

"{Repentance} refers to a change of mind and purpose that turns an individual from sin to God. Such change involves more than fearing the consequences of God's judgment. Genuine repentance knows that the evil of sin must be forsaken and the person and work of Christ totally and singularly embraced." J. MacArthur

God grants/accepts the repentance of those that truly do so but as we know many will not truly repent of their sins.

We see this in Act 5:31 that while all Israel was granted the possibility of repentance and forgiveness of sins not all of Israel turned to Christ in faith did they.

Then in Act 11:18 we see the house of Cornelius where the Jews that were with Peter, seeing that the Holy Spirit had fallen on the Gentiles, had their objections put to rest and saw that God granted/accepted repentance of the Gentiles also.

Then we have Paul in Act 20:21 "testifying to Jews and Greeks alike about repentance to God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ."

God does not make people repent or repent for them but will grant/accept true repentance. That is why Peter said in Act 2:38 "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

BF you have to start trusting the whole word of God if you want to come to a correct understanding of His word. That is why I keep pointing out your errors of cherry picking out of context verses.

 

[Brightfame52]

You cherry pick out of context verses or parts of verses that you think support your view and come up with things like your "spiritual hearing" which is not biblical. So the only one playing games with the word of God is you BF.

I just point out the errors of your view.

Thats your excuse, so me giving you scripture isnt the problem

 

[Brightfame52]

Patching together out of context verses does not help you BF. What you are doing is no different than the WoF charlatans.

You are not trusting the whole word of God but yourself.

So giving you scripture means nothing to you.

 

[Brightfame52]

Repentance is something that the man must do as God does not do it for them.

"{Repentance} refers to a change of mind and purpose that turns an individual from sin to God. Such change involves more than fearing the consequences of God's judgment. Genuine repentance knows that the evil of sin must be forsaken and the person and work of Christ totally and singularly embraced." J. MacArthur

God grants/accepts the repentance of those that truly do so but as we know many will not truly repent of their sins.

We see this in Act 5:31 that while all Israel was granted the possibility of repentance and forgiveness of sins not all of Israel turned to Christ in faith did they.

Then in Act 11:18 we see the house of Cornelius where the Jews that were with Peter, seeing that the Holy Spirit had fallen on the Gentiles, had their objections put to rest and saw that God granted/accepted repentance of the Gentiles also.

Then we have Paul in Act 20:21 "testifying to Jews and Greeks alike about repentance to God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ."

God does not make people repent or repent for them but will grant/accept true repentance. That is why Peter said in Act 2:38 "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

BF you have to start trusting the whole word of God if you want to come to a correct understanding of His word. That is why I keep pointing out your errors of cherry picking out of context verses.

I show you scripture that repentance is given by God and it means nothing to you.

 

[Van]

If God credits your faith as righteousness, your understanding, even if flawed becomes priceless. Try understanding Romans 4!

Folks, do you believe Romans Chapter 4? Do you believe God credits the faith of some of those who believe to some degree in the gospel of Christ? Or do you believe God does not actually credit the faith of some lost persons as righteousness.

The fiction, not found anywhere is scripture is first God instills His perfect saving faith into those chosen before creation, and then to disguise His action, He writes that He credits the person's faith, rather than His own, as righteousness. Sounds like malarkey to me...

 

[Charlie24]

Folks, do you believe Romans Chapter 4? Do you believe God credits the faith of some of those who believe to some degree in the gospel of Christ? Or do you believe God does not actually credit the faith of some lost persons as righteousness.

The fiction, not found anywhere is scripture is first God instills His perfect saving faith into those chosen before creation, and then to disguise His action, He writes that He credits the person's faith, rather than His own, as righteousness. Sounds like malarkey to me...

It's the dark side of predestination.

I believe man was predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ according to His plan of redemption before the foundation of the world.

I see the plan being predestined for man before the foundation of the world, the plan of how man would be redeemed.

Not God choosing who would or who would not be saved.

 

[Charlie24]

It's the dark side of predestination.

I believe man was predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ according to His plan of redemption before the foundation of the world.

I see the plan being predestined for man before the foundation of the world, the plan of how man would be redeemed.

Not God choosing who would or who would not be saved.

Of course there is a condition to the plan that TULIP denies.

We must choose to believe and accept Christ to benefit from the plan.

 

[Van]

It's the dark side of predestination.

I believe man was predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ according to His plan of redemption before the foundation of the world.

I see the plan being predestined for man before the foundation of the world, the plan of how man would be redeemed.

Not God choosing who would or who would not be saved.

God's redemption plan is for each person transferred spiritually into Christ would THEN be conformed to Christ's image. So there is no dark side of predestination, as God is good! All three predestined actions by God upon the redeemed are predicated upon the person first being chosen for salvation through faith in the truth. The three actions, (1) to be conformed to the image of Christ, (2) our bodily redemption at Christ's second coming, and (3) our inheritance of eternal life, reserved in heaven.

 

[Charlie24]

God's redemption plan is for each person transferred spiritually into Christ would THEN be conformed to Christ's image. So there is no dark side of predestination, as God is good! All three predestined actions by God upon the redeemed are predicated upon the person first being chosen for salvation through faith in the truth. The three actions, (1) to be conformed to the image of Christ, (2) our bodily redemption at Christ's second coming, and (3) our inheritance of eternal life, reserved in heaven.

Man can pervert the light into darkness on this earth.

I most definitely see a dark side of God's predestination by man.

 

[Van]

Man can pervert the light into darkness on this earth.

I most definitely see a dark side of God's predestination by man.

It is either God's predestination, or man's misrepresentation.

 

[Charlie24]

It is either God's predestination, or man's misrepresentation.

Yes, and there are so many that don't know the difference.

So many that think God has never reached out to them, that He doesn't love them, that they cannot know Him.

Psalms 126:5-6

"They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.

He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him."

 

[Brightfame52]

The word Give in Acts 5 and grant in Acts 11 are the very same greek word didómi and does mean to:

1. of one's own accord to give one something, to his advantage; to bestow, give as a gift:

to supply, furnish, necessary things:

Joined with nouns denoting strength, faculty, power, virtue, δίδωμι (τίνι τί) is equivalent to: to furnish, endue,

This furnishing is the new birth, new Spiritual life and faculties.

Note: Its said to cause repentance :

. the noun denotes something to be done by him to whom it is said to be given: διδόναι τινὶ μετάνοιαν, to cause him to repent, Acts 5:31; Acts 11:18 G1325 - didōmi - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

 

[Silverhair]

The word Give in Acts 5 and grant in Acts 11 are the very same greek word didómi and does mean to:

1. of one's own accord to give one something, to his advantage; to bestow, give as a gift:

to supply, furnish, necessary things:

Joined with nouns denoting strength, faculty, power, virtue, δίδωμι (τίνι τί) is equivalent to: to furnish, endue,

This furnishing is the new birth, new Spiritual life and faculties.

Note: Its said to cause repentance :

. the noun denotes something to be done by him to whom it is said to be given: διδόναι τινὶ μετάνοιαν, to cause him to repent, Acts 5:31; Acts 11:18 G1325 - didōmi - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

BF are you suggesting that God changes their minds for them?

If that were the case then way has He not done that for all of humanity since His desire is for all to come to a knowledge of Him and be saved.

The context does not support your view in either of the verses that you reference. In both verses it is the people that must repent and believe as God does not do either for them.