The Bible Teaches that Repentance and Faith are Gifts from God.

[Silverhair]

You showing that you are calling Jesus Christ a failure. Its His responsibility to save who God wants saved. Didnt He come to save that which was lost ? Lk 19:10 Are these the Father desires to be saved in 1 Tim 2:4

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Are they part of them that are Lost that He come to save Lk 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Christ is not a failure BF your view is.

Your post # 88
"Its on Christ to save all whom the Father wants to be saved. What did the Father send the Son to do ? Lk 19:10
10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Was He successful ? Did He seek and save all God wants to be saved ? Yes or No"


Did Christ seek all that God wants to be saved YES, did all get saved NO.

Why were not all saved BF?

Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Christ accomplished what the father sent Him to do, save those who would freely trust in Him for their salvation.

 

[Brightfame52]

BF you are jumping from what you posited that all Israel, the nation, Act 5:31 would be saved, which is not true. To all Israel, those of the same faith as Abraham, will be saved Rom 11:26, which is true.

This shows why you have made so many logical errors in your thinking.

You love to run to the word all like in Jn 12:32 so what does Paul mean when he says "so ALL Israel shall be saved" Rom 11:26

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Does all mean all ? lol

 

[Silverhair]

@Silverhair



So when God gives repentance to an individual its by New Birth, so when a person repents towards God and Faith in Christ Acts 20:21

21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

They were born again. We cant repent towards God and have Faith toward Christ unless born again

BF you continue to ignore what the the bible says and reverse the order of salvation so it fits your errant religious view. Even the verse you quoted, Act 20:21, does not help your case.

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

What did Paul teach
1] repentance toward God
2] faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ

ph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

I am sorry that you have been mislead to trust the calvinist dogma rather than the word of God. You are following a pagan philosophy from the 4th century.

 

[Brightfame52]

BF you continue to ignore what the the bible says and reverse the order of salvation so it fits your errant religious view. Even the verse you quoted, Act 20:21, does not help your case.

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

What did Paul teach
1] repentance toward God
2] faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ

ph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

I am sorry that you have been mislead to trust the calvinist dogma rather than the word of God. You are following a pagan philosophy from the 4th century.

Repentance, a change of mind towards God is by means of the New Birth. Did you know that the New Birth/regeneration is a Gift.

 

[Silverhair]

You love to run to the word all like in Jn 12:32 so what does Paul mean when he says "so ALL Israel shall be saved" Rom 11:26

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Does all mean all ? lol

You are sounding desperate BF.

Do you not believe that Christ would draw all mankind to Himself through the cross? Jn 12:32

To all Israel, ALL those of the same faith as Abraham, will be saved Rom 11:26, which is true.

You continue to pull out of context verses in the attempt to support your failed views.

 

[Brightfame52]

You are sounding desperate BF.

Do you not believe that Christ would draw all mankind to Himself through the cross? Jn 12:32

To all Israel, ALL those of the same faith as Abraham, will be saved Rom 11:26, which is true.

You continue to pull out of context verses in the attempt to support your failed views.

So it doesnt mean all Israel individually without exception correct ?

 

[Silverhair]

So it doesnt mean all Israel individually without exception correct ?

Actually it means Jews and Gentiles that freely trust in God just as Abraham did.

We as saved by the grace of God through faith.

 

[Brightfame52]

Actually it means Jews and Gentiles that freely trust in God just as Abraham did.

We as saved by the grace of God through faith.

So when it says all Israel shall be saved its q conditional promise correct, ? they might be saved if they believe. Is that what you saying ?

 

[Silverhair]

So when it says all Israel shall be saved its q conditional promise correct, ? they might be saved if they believe. Is that what you saying ?

That is what the bible teaches BF.

Why do you dance around the truth so much BF. Is it that hard for you to just trust what God has said?

Rom 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will remove godlessness from Jacob.

Rom 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
Rom 3:29 Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too,
Rom 3:30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised {Jews} by faith and the uncircumcised {Greeks} through that same faith.

Rom_5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom_5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.

Eph_2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

So as the bible tells us BF, all Israel will be saved, the sons of Abraham by faith.
Gal 3:7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham.

 

[Brightfame52]

That is what the bible teaches BF.

Why do you dance around the truth so much BF. Is it that hard for you to just trust what God has said?

Rom 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will remove godlessness from Jacob.

Rom 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
Rom 3:29 Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too,
Rom 3:30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised {Jews} by faith and the uncircumcised {Greeks} through that same faith.

Rom_5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom_5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.

Eph_2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

So as the bible tells us BF, all Israel will be saved, the sons of Abraham by faith.
Gal 3:7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham.

So you teaching that an unconditional promise to save all Israel, as prophesied Isa 45:17,25

But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

25 In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

You making it conditional and by doing that you saying all doesnt mean all without exception, because making it conditional it cant be sure to all the seed of Israel. Wonder if some of Israel doesnt meet the condition ?