The Biblical Doctrine of Divorce

[Salamander]

I'm thoroughly disgusted with all this emotions mean more than anything on this board!

My wife has a saying taped to her vanity mirror: "Don't let your emotions control you, control them instead."

(If she just put it into practice more often!):tonofbricks:

and she threw everyone of those bricks too!

Good aim, huh?

 

[LadyEagle]

Divorce is unscriptural, and remarriage is unscriptural. God said so in His word, the Creator said so in the flesh.
However, man doesn't care.
So, have fun.

And for a man to divorce a woman and take her back after she has been married to another man is an abominiation according to Scripture, but that is the example you cited on one of these threads.

Deut.24
"[1] When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
[2] And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
[3] And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
[4] Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance."

Just remember by whose stripes you are healed when you all go ahead and do what you think is God's way, and above whose head the charges against you were nailed when you all go to church next time and sing your beautiful Christian hymns.

It would behoove all of us, married or not, divorced or not, widowed or not, never married, or whatever our status, to remember by whose stripes we are healed by when we go to church and sing our beautiful Christian hymns.

 

[Salamander]

You mean your kind of attitude? The one you frequently bash people with?
She has said over and over she does not intend to follow scripture.

I know and trust my husband, I can be for sure. You on the other hand can know absolutely nothing about my husband.

Cat fight!:laugh:

 

[donnA]

I'm thoroughly disgusted with all this emotions mean more than anything on this board!

To some it means more then scripture, and makes them willing to violate scripture, or twist it as needed. Which is sad.

 

[donnA]

Cat fight!:laugh:

Nope, standing up for scripture.

 

[LadyEagle]

It's all in the interpretation, obviously, since some people don't what to accept the original Greek. Sad.

 

[donnA]

So does the original greek allow divorced people to remarry another person?

 

[Brother Bob]

[/color]Even with rotting teeth?


Nope, I'd side with the guy and "let's go kill her!":laugh: and him!:laugh: Real quick-like.

No, all joking aside, I'd have to follow the Spirit and try my best to console the man and try my best to convince him that God has something far better for him, and it just might NOT be another wife. A good dog can replace any bad woman!

I got a good wife of 47 years and a good dog...........:laugh:

BBob,

 

[pinoybaptist]

And for a man to divorce a woman and take her back after she has been married to another man is an abominiation according to Scripture, but that is the example you cited on one of these threads.

Lady Eagle, you and not I, were born and raised in the English language. I suggest you go back and read the example I gave. The MAN left the woman and went and married another woman WHILE HIS MARRIAGE TO HIS FIRST WIFE was valid (not yelling, just for emphasis). He committed bigamy. He didn't divorce anyone. He added a wife to himself. And since the first wife loved him, loved her Lord, and trusted her Lord, she did not file a lawsuit against him, therefore, there was no judge or court to LEGALLY pronounce the second marriage null and void, which according to law, it was.

He committed bigamy, and adultery. The first wife was innocent.

Your statement above is inaccurate. Whether by design or not, I know not.

 

[LadyEagle]

Lady Eagle, you and not I, were born and raised in the English language. I suggest you go back and read the example I gave. The MAN left the woman and went and married another woman WHILE HIS MARRIAGE TO HIS FIRST WIFE was valid (not yelling, just for emphasis). He committed bigamy. He didn't divorce anyone. He added a wife to himself. And since the first wife loved him, loved her Lord, and trusted her Lord, she did not file a lawsuit against him, therefore, there was no judge or court to LEGALLY pronounce the second marriage null and void, which according to law, it was.

He committed bigamy, and adultery. The first wife was innocent.

Your statement above is inaccurate. Whether by design or not, I know not.

Thanks for clearing that up. I did not realize he was a bigamist, so must have misread what you had written. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Brother Bob]

Lady Eagle, you and not I, were born and raised in the English language. I suggest you go back and read the example I gave. The MAN left the woman and went and married another woman WHILE HIS MARRIAGE TO HIS FIRST WIFE was valid (not yelling, just for emphasis). He committed bigamy. He didn't divorce anyone. He added a wife to himself. And since the first wife loved him, loved her Lord, and trusted her Lord, she did not file a lawsuit against him, therefore, there was no judge or court to LEGALLY pronounce the second marriage null and void, which according to law, it was.

He committed bigamy, and adultery. The first wife was innocent.

Your statement above is inaccurate. Whether by design or not, I know not.

Ahh, the good ole days of Israel............., just think about all those concubines...........:laugh:

BBob,

 

[pinoybaptist]

Thanks for clearing that up. I did not realize he was a bigamist, so must have misread what you had written. Thanks for clarifying.

not a problem.:thumbs:

 

[Bible-boy]

God loves divorced people just as much as He loves any other person. And he forgives the mistakes that they make along the way. The issue here is that divorce and remarriage affect a person wanting to go into the ministry. It disqualifies him.
He is no longer blaimeless.

By this logic neither is the man who has done murder, or the ex-homosexual, or the ex-drunk, or the ex-drug addict, or the once bad tempered brawler, or one-time wife beater, or the ex-gambler, or the one-time thief. What makes divorce the sole test for blamelessness to the exclusion of all the requirements of 1 Tim. 3:1-7?

He no longer is the husband of one wife (if remarred).

Depending on whether one's interpretation of "husband of one wife" means one wife in a lifetime or if it means no polygamy.

He no longer rules his house well.

His first house has been burned to ground and no longer exists. Now let's look at his new house.

He cannot stand before his congregation and be the example of what a Godly "pastor" ought to be because he has made shipwreck of his own home-life.

But the recovering alcoholic, or recovering drug addict, or ex-brawler, or the one-time murderer, or the one-time wife beater, or the ex-homosexual, or the repentant thief or gambler can. Why is that?

Paul writing to Timothy as a younger pastor gave him this advice:

1 Timothy 4:12 Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

A man that is divorced is not a good example to the believers.

Likewise, neither are any of the other guys I've referenced above if we focus on their past sins and refuse to look at their recent/current lives. However, we as Baptists will ordain them without a second thought because they have repented and been forgiven. Where's the logic?

 

[Bible-boy]

Exactly my "thoughts" and if we included the entire context we would find this so-called "exception clause" stems from the hardheart of the husband towards the wife for her premarital activity.

Many try to use this passage for a man-made "loop-hole" in God's Law.

However, you are forgetting that the OT law (Deut. 22) required that both parties found in adultry were to be stoned to death. If the Israelites had not been so hard hearted and obeyed God's law there would have been no need for the permission granting divorce in Deut. 24.

 

[DHK]

Likewise, neither are any of the other guys I've referenced above if we focus on their past sins and refuse to look at their recent/current lives. However, we as Baptists will ordain them without a second thought because they have repented and been forgiven. Where's the logic?

You are on the councill to find a pastor for your church. Your previous pastor has resigned and moved on.

Are you honestly going to tell me that you are going to consider a "former" pedophile, or a "former" homosexual to be the pastor of your church?

 

[Joe]

2 Corinthians 5:17(New King James Version)
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Ezekiel 18:20
20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.[/U]


If my wife kept having affairs, I would divorce her and remarry another. I did nothing wrong, and as Ezekiel 18:20 reads, her wickedness and sin are upon herself.

 

[DHK]

If my wife kept having affairs, I would divorce her and remarry another. I did nothing wrong, and as Ezekiel 18:20 reads, her wickedness and sin are upon herself.

Since the Bible teaches that divorce and remarriage is wrong you would be bringing wickedness and sin upon yourself.

 

[Bible-boy]

You are on the councill to find a pastor for your church. Your previous pastor has resigned and moved on.

Are you honestly going to tell me that you are going to consider a "former" pedophile, or a "former" homosexual to be the pastor of your church?

I would certainly have a problem with the "former pedophile." However, I know an ex-homosexual who has a great testamony and a great ministry. I know his wife and son. I know the details of his life since the Lord delivered him from homosexuality and gave him a wife and family. I have observed his ministry and teaching in the church for many years. I would have no problem considering him. I'd also have a problem with other ex-homosexuals that I would have no way of knowing personally and no way of having observed their lives for years.

So what about all the other type I mentioned that we as Baptists ordain and call to pastor every day?

 

[DHK]

I would certainly have a problem with the "former pedophile." However, I know an ex-homosexual who has a great testamony and a great ministry. I know his wife and son. I know the details of his life since the Lord delivered him from homosexuality and gave him a wife and family. I have observed his ministry and teaching in the church for many years. I would have no problem considering him. I'd also have a problem with other ex-homosexuals that I would have no way of knowing personally and no way of having observed their lives for years.

So what about all the other type I mentioned that we as Baptists ordain and call to pastor every day?

I am afraid I don't know what you mean "we as Baptsits" ordain and call.
You walk in different circles than I.

 

[nunatak]

I would certainly have a problem with the "former pedophile." However, I know an ex-homosexual who has a great testamony and a great ministry. I know his wife and son. I know the details of his life since the Lord delivered him from homosexuality and gave him a wife and family. I have observed his ministry and teaching in the church for many years. I would have no problem considering him. I'd also have a problem with other ex-homosexuals that I would have no way of knowing personally and no way of having observed their lives for years.

So what about all the other type I mentioned that we as Baptists ordain and call to pastor every day?

Wow, that was a wonderful testimony, brought tears to my eyes. :godisgood: