The Calvinist Gospel

[SavedByGrace]

well now...your opposition is with the Holy Spirit,and the Apostle Peter on the day of Pentecost.
In that sermon he directed them to confess Jesus as Lord, and REPENT, and be baptized.
I and millions believe that. Your failed attempt to twist what I posted will not change the God breathed words of the Holy Spirit preached by Peter.
You feel the need to twist what I posted because I saw through your gotcha question. Are you reduced to this because you desire to resist truth at all cost?
You try and alter my response to one you can attempt to answer?

My response is to ALL Reformed/Calvinists, and not only to you personally! If you are not one of these, and do not hold to "Justification by faith alone", then don't worry about it!

 

[Iconoclast]

My response is to ALL Reformed/Calvinists, and not only to you personally! If you are not one of these, and do not hold to "Justification by faith alone", then don't worry about it!

To be honest with you and if you do not mind, quite direct....the way you ask your question demonstrates a defective understanding of the 5 solas.
When you try and avoid truth and expect others to answer for your misunderstanding you are not really looking for truth at all.

 

[SavedByGrace]

the way you ask your question demonstrates a defective understanding of the 5 solas.

so how do you understand "Sola Fide"?

 

[George Antonios]

The Holy Bible IS the UNCHANGING Word of Almighty God. REPENTANCE has ALWAYS meant the SAME, from Genesis to Revelation! "godly sorrow for personal sins, and a turning to the Lord Jesus Christ in faith"

I'm pretty sure you could list on your own a whole bunch of things that changed from one dispensation to another.
Also, it seems you haven't gone through every reference to repentance in the book and saw how it's used.

 

[Yeshua1]

My response is to ALL Reformed/Calvinists, and not only to you personally! If you are not one of these, and do not hold to "Justification by faith alone", then don't worry about it!

What other view can be legit except Justified thru faith alone in Lord Jesus?

 

[SavedByGrace]

What other view can be legit except Justified thru faith alone in Lord Jesus?

exactly HOW can a sinner be Justified by faith alone, there is no repentance (godly sorrow) attached ot it? The Reformed Sola Fide, is very much unbiblical!

 

[Yeshua1]

exactly HOW can a sinner be Justified by faith alone, there is no repentance (godly sorrow) attached ot it? The Reformed Sola Fide, is very much unbiblical!

We would see Faith and repentance as being flip sides of the same coin, as to repent would mean agree with God cannot save ourselves and must have Lord Jesus do that!

 

[SavedByGrace]

I'm pretty sure you could list on your own a whole bunch of things that changed from one dispensation to another.
Also, it seems you haven't gone through every reference to repentance in the book and saw how it's used.

what do you think that Jesus means in Mark 1:15, where He says very clearly, "“The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”? And, again, in Luke 24:47, "and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem". And, Peter in his first sermon on the Day of Pentecost, "Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:37-38)?

 

[SavedByGrace]

We would see Faith and repentance as being flip sides of the same coin, as to repent would mean agree with God cannot save ourselves and must have Lord Jesus do that!

Jesus disagrees with this, "and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem" (Luke 24:47). Note that repentance has forgiveness of sins attached to it, not just changing ones view about God!. And, Peters words, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:37-38)

 

[George Antonios]

what do you think that Jesus means in Mark 1:15, where He says very clearly, "“The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”? And, again, in Luke 24:47, "and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem". And, Peter in his first sermon on the Day of Pentecost, "Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:37-38)?

You're so quick to disagree that you're not actually listening to what I'm saying.
In many cases, your interpretation is right.
What I'm saying is that it depends on the dispensation as repentance is spoken of in sundry ways at sundry times.

 

[SavedByGrace]

You're so quick to disagree that you're not actually listening to what I'm saying.
In many cases, your interpretation is right.
What I'm saying is that it depends on the dispensation as repentance is spoken of in sundry ways at sundry times.

Brother, I know what you are saying! What I am saying is that repentance has always been repentance, regardless of when it is used! The Bible's Teaching on this has NEVER changed, if it has, I would like chapter and verse.

 

[Yeshua1]

Jesus disagrees with this, "and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem" (Luke 24:47). Note that repentance has forgiveness of sins attached to it, not just changing ones view about God!. And, Peters words, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:37-38)

Repentance in the case of salvation would mean that the sinner agrees now with God that cannot save ourselves and must have His grace!

 

[Yeshua1]

Brother, I know what you are saying! What I am saying is that repentance has always been repentance, regardless of when it is used! The Bible's Teaching on this has NEVER changed, if it has, I would like chapter and verse.

Some see this as a command to repent all known sins, while I see this as stop trusting in own works and efforts to save is now!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Repentance in the case of salvation would mean that the sinner agrees now with God that cannot save ourselves and must have His grace!

so, this does not mean to turn from one's personal sins, and to have godly sorrow for this? Has the Gospel changed over the years? Are you saying what God required from ALL sinners in Ezekiel 18, no longer holds true?

"“But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed (repents) and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right (faith), he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live (repent)? (21-23)

 

[SavedByGrace]

Some see this as a command to repent all known sins, while I see this as stop trusting in own works and efforts to save is now!

then you must follow another Bible!

 

[Yeshua1]

so, this does not mean to turn from one's personal sins, and to have godly sorrow for this? Has the Gospel changed over the years? Are you saying what God required from ALL sinners in Ezekiel 18, no longer holds true?

"“But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed (repents) and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right (faith), he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live (repent)? (21-23)

I am saying that Lord Jesus accepts all sinners just as we are!

 

[Yeshua1]

then you must follow another Bible!

Nope, do not follow the Gospel of faith and works!

 

[George Antonios]

Brother, I know what you are saying! What I am saying is that repentance has always been repentance, regardless of when it is used! The Bible's Teaching on this has NEVER changed, if it has, I would like chapter and verse.

 

[George Antonios]

It's amazing to watch.

• So many people see the same issues from 2 different sides.
• Each side quotes their verses.
• But both deny dispensationalism - the one thing that reconciles both sides...

Keep denying dispensationalism, and keep arguing. Carry on.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Nope, do not follow the Gospel of faith and works!

"The word reachedc the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, removed his robe, covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. 7 And he issued a proclamation and published through Nineveh, “By the decree of the king and his nobles: Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste anything. Let them not feed or drink water, 8 but let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and let them call out mightily to God. Let everyone turn from his evil way and from the violence that is in his hands. 9 Who knows? God may turn and relent and turn from his fierce anger, so that we may not perish.” 10 When God saw what they did (KJV, God saw their works), how they turned from their evil way (repented), God relented of the disaster that he had said he would do to them, and he did not do it." (Jonah 3) Not "works" as in "earning" salvation, which is impossible. But by conforming to God's Just demands, as in true repentance!

What do you make of Acts 10:34-35?

"So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him"