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"The End of the Spear"

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Sspinko52

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Has anyone mentioned the article that was written in agape press yet? If not, I'll try to paste it here on the board.

Also, I saw both the movie and the documentary. They were both very good. The documentary was better than the movie. It was more in depth and promoted the gospel much better than the movie. Just my thoughts on the topic.
 
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Boanerges

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Originally posted by Berean:
I cannot understand why there is not more Pastors
speaking out about the movie The End of the Spear. In my church SBC (6000 members)the pastor and staff are very noncommital. The only persons making a statement are the SS Teachers and they have all been favorable. Is it not the "shepards"
responsibility to look after the sheep?
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The shepards are only as good as the leadership. The leadership has demonstrated very little discernment. God will eventually remove the sheep from the "shepherds" as it is written.
 
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Johnv

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Originally posted by standingfirminChrist:
It is the shepherd's responsibility, yes. Unfortunately, many are choked on the cares of the world because they are not feasting enough on the Word of God.
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So let me get this straight. According to you:

If a pastor doesn't speak out against the movie because he hasn't seen it or has no knowlege of it, then he's choked on the cares of the world and not feasting enough on the Word of God.

If a pastor does go see the movie, or researches it, and gives it his thumbs up, then he's choked on the cares of the world and not feasting enough on the Word of God.

If a pastor denounces the movie, whether he's seen it or not, whether he's researched it or not, then he's not choked on the cares of the world and feasting adequately on the Word of God.
 
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Johnv

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Originally posted by rlvaughn:
I'm curious, has Elisabeth Elliot spoken about the movie one way or the other?
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Dunno, but Focus on the Family gives it a generally favorable review.
 
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Boanerges

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Originally posted by Johnv:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by rlvaughn:
I'm curious, has Elisabeth Elliot spoken about the movie one way or the other?
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Dunno, but Focus on the Family gives it a generally favorable review. </font>[/QUOTE]If Dobson likes it, I would say run the other way...
 
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LadyEagle

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If a pastor denounces the movie, whether he's seen it or not, whether he's researched it or not, then he's not choked on the cares of the world and feasting adequately on the Word of God.
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That about sums it up.


If my pastor gives this movie a thumbs up knowing a homosexual activist was chosen for the starring role, I will find another church ASAP.

Not a threat, a promise.

But it will be highly, highly unlikely that my pastor will do so.
 
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Boanerges

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Originally posted by LadyEagle:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />If a pastor denounces the movie, whether he's seen it or not, whether he's researched it or not, then he's not choked on the cares of the world and feasting adequately on the Word of God.
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That about sums it up.


If my pastor gives this movie a thumbs up knowing a homosexual activist was chosen for the starring role, I will find another church ASAP.

Not a threat, a promise. </font>[/QUOTE]I like your style LE. The sheep will be taken away as it is written, others will flee the insanity of the luke warm tossed to and fro church on their own.
 
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LadyEagle

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Romans 12:[2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
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Johnv

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Originally posted by Boanerges:
Dobson thought that Harry Potter was good. So much for his discernment.
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I'm willing to bet dollar to doughnuts that you've never checked out the movie review website for yourself.
 
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LadyEagle

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Originally posted by Johnv:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by LadyEagle:
That about sums it up.
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Okay, I was just curious to what extent peoples' double-standards apply. </font>[/QUOTE]This is where you are mistaken. There is no "double standard" here. Only one standard - the Word of God.
 
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Johnv

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Originally posted by standingfirminChrist:
All the liberal pastors like it...
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I couldn't help but notice you completely disregarded by question to you. Not surirising. LE answered it, but only partly (which is surprising, because whenever I ask her a question directly, she never answers it, and whenever I praise her, she ignores it).
Originally posted by LadyEagle:
Romans 12:[2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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This is not an issue of conforming to the world. It's an issue of letting each be convinced in his own mind.
Originally posted by LadyEagle:
This is where you are mistaken. There is no "double standard" here. Only one standard - the Word of God.
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On the contrary. It's your standard, not God's standard, that you're expecting everyone to follow.
 
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LadyEagle

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This is not an issue of conforming to the world. It's an issue of letting each be convinced in his own mind.
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Then please list for us all the ways in which this movie is not, as you say, conforming to the world.

As far as letting each be convinced in his own mind, that argument won't hold an ounce of water when there are famous evangelicals persuading flocks of sheep to go see it, i.e. James Dobson and Jerry Falwell. The uninformed are likely to say, if Jerry Falwell recommends it or if James Dobson recommends it, there must be nothing wrong with it.
 
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LadyEagle

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On the contrary. It's your standard, not God's standard, that you're expecting everyone to follow.
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On the contrary, I don't expect "everyone" to follow my standard. I DO expect Christian films and producers of Christian films to set a Godly standard which does not include hiring homosexual activists to play in their movies. I DO expect well-known evangelicals to take a firm stand when there is sin or the appearance of evil in the camp. Those are God's standards - to refrain from the very APPEARANCE of evil. Those are God's words, not mine.
 
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