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First let me say that I am not saying that all IFB churches and people are bad. There are plenty of good and Godly people in the movement. Second this is not to say that the SBC, CBA, Missionary Alliance, and other denominations have got it together because they do not. I have criticized those denominations as well, just in different areas. However since we are speaking of the IFB movement let me say that as a former BJU seminary student & staff member and having been in Greenville, SC for 6 years I will say I believe there is allot of legalism in the movement, and Phil did an excellent job presenting that and MOST of his points were spot on. No he is not perfect and may have had his information on John R. Rice backwards and some other details, but suffice to say he did a good job with this presentation and refutation of the Fundamentalist movement.
So am I a hypocrite? Yes as I used to preach Fundamentalist and separation to the T at one time and caused waves in Way of the Master camps because they listened to contemporary worship, drunk alcohol, danced, and had other Fundamentalist taboo's that BJU taught me to separate from. But God has shown me the error of my ways, and I see know that plenty of God honoring Way of the Master evangelists drink alcohol, dance, listen to contemporary worship, have long hair, wear shorts, and go to movie theaters. God is interested in the heart more than the traditions of "religious people."
Just because someone drinks alcohol, dances, goes to the movies, and listens to CCM does not make them a bad person. The HUGE PROBLEM I saw in the IFB movement in Greenville was that ones righteousness and standing before God was not about their walk with God, but more about what they did and who they hung out with. This is Arminian theology no question and goes against the Bible. My righteousness and standing before God is not about me, but about God and what he did for me (Eph 2:8-10).
Many IFB will frown upon "New Evangelical" because of how they dress to church, and who they hang out with, but perhaps God frowns upon the Fundamentalist and religious person because they think dressing up to church, not drinking alcohol, not dancing, going to the movies, and such are what earns their favor before God. This is not true!!!
Jesus himself did things that many Fundamentalist would frown upon. For example.
He ate with tax collectors and sinners
Matthew 9:10-12
While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and “sinners” came and ate with him and his disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?” On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor but the sick…”
He was relevant with the culture
Jesus showed people grace
John 8:3-11 (KJV)
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Once again I am not saying that all IFB Churches and people are bad, because thats not true. I am broad-brushing the movement which I believe for the most part has sunk into legalism.
First let me say that I am not saying that all IFB churches and people are bad. There are plenty of good and Godly people in the movement. Second this is not to say that the SBC, CBA, Missionary Alliance, and other denominations have got it together because they do not. I have criticized those denominations as well, just in different areas. However since we are speaking of the IFB movement let me say that as a former BJU seminary student & staff member and having been in Greenville, SC for 6 years I will say I believe there is allot of legalism in the movement, and Phil did an excellent job presenting that and MOST of his points were spot on. No he is not perfect and may have had his information on John R. Rice backwards and some other details, but suffice to say he did a good job with this presentation and refutation of the Fundamentalist movement.
So am I a hypocrite? Yes as I used to preach Fundamentalist and separation to the T at one time and caused waves in Way of the Master camps because they listened to contemporary worship, drunk alcohol, danced, and had other Fundamentalist taboo's that BJU taught me to separate from. But God has shown me the error of my ways, and I see know that plenty of God honoring Way of the Master evangelists drink alcohol, dance, listen to contemporary worship, have long hair, wear shorts, and go to movie theaters. God is interested in the heart more than the traditions of "religious people."
Just because someone drinks alcohol, dances, goes to the movies, and listens to CCM does not make them a bad person. The HUGE PROBLEM I saw in the IFB movement in Greenville was that ones righteousness and standing before God was not about their walk with God, but more about what they did and who they hung out with. This is Arminian theology no question and goes against the Bible. My righteousness and standing before God is not about me, but about God and what he did for me (Eph 2:8-10).
Many IFB will frown upon "New Evangelical" because of how they dress to church, and who they hang out with, but perhaps God frowns upon the Fundamentalist and religious person because they think dressing up to church, not drinking alcohol, not dancing, going to the movies, and such are what earns their favor before God. This is not true!!!
Jesus himself did things that many Fundamentalist would frown upon. For example.
He ate with tax collectors and sinners
Matthew 9:10-12
While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and “sinners” came and ate with him and his disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?” On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor but the sick…”
He was relevant with the culture
Does that mean that we become like old fogies, cast into the culture of a generation and look as if we have not had a modern thought in years? No, it’s not about the methods or the style but the substance and the message. When we believe what the Word of God says then we will be relevant in our culture, but will not alter the message.
David Jeremiah-- Hope in the Midst of Future. Radio Broadcast, June 6, 2008
Jesus showed people grace
John 8:3-11 (KJV)
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Once again I am not saying that all IFB Churches and people are bad, because thats not true. I am broad-brushing the movement which I believe for the most part has sunk into legalism.
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