OfLivingWaters
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Good point.
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The Eve of War
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If you are on the side of God you will NOT be misled.
You need to read the passage I posted with an open heart.
Here it is in the NIV
NIV Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
OfLivingWaters
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No I understand it perfectly. And I did not say if you are on the side of God you will be mislead but on the side of government.
My heart is open to true interpretation not self appeasement .
Unto Us a Child is Born Isaiah 9:5-7
…5For every boot of the booted warrior in the battle tumult, And cloak rolled in blood, will be for burning, fuel for the fire. 6For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. 7There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will accomplish this.…
we are part of Christ Government:
gov·ern·ment
ˈɡəvər(n)mənt/
noun
noun: government; plural noun: governments
My heart is open to true interpretation not self appeasement .
Unto Us a Child is Born Isaiah 9:5-7
…5For every boot of the booted warrior in the battle tumult, And cloak rolled in blood, will be for burning, fuel for the fire. 6For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. 7There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will accomplish this.…
we are part of Christ Government:
gov·ern·ment
ˈɡəvər(n)mənt/
noun
noun: government; plural noun: governments
- 1.
the governing body of a nation, state, or community.
"an agency of the federal government"- the system by which a nation, state, or community is governed.
"a secular, pluralistic, democratic government" - the action or manner of controlling or regulating a nation, organization, or people.
"rules for the government of the infirmary"
synonyms: rule, governing, running, leadership, control, administration, regulation, management, supervision
"her job was the government of the district" - the group of people in office at a particular time; administration.
"the election of the new government"
synonyms: administration, executive, regime, authority, powers that be, directorate, council, leadership; More
cabinet, ministry;
nanny state;
informalfeds;
Washington
"the government announced further cuts" - another term for political science.
- the system by which a nation, state, or community is governed.
- 2.
Grammar
the relation between a governed and a governing word.
- You have not heard. The wrongdoer? All are wrongdoers, hence God's wrath will be kindled upon both.
Attachments
This guy would think Sniper heroes... like Carlos Hathcock
are evil... God bless him and all who train and serve in the military.
carlos babcock - Google Search
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I believe you are indeed distorting the Romans 13 passage. when we go after and kill those who in the name of their god and their religion aka "the Religion of Peace" (aka ISIS) who slaughter men , women, pregnant women, children and babies then they have thrown off God's grace and will be shown is wrath.
OfLivingWaters
Active Member
This began before Isis, and I get Romans 13. Simply saying follow , the story from the beginning to its end. Whatever you did or do, whatever armies do or do not do, God is in control, but the chosen of God do not step left or right. Chosen from among men
separate and not of vessels of wrath but as vessels of peace, as all in Christ are. Upon us no judgement but appointed as Judges concerning the affairs of men. And America's most recent wars, not righteous.More deaths and displacement than good service toward man in righteousness. The argument is not that a man serve his country in righteousness but that what is going on now a days is not out of righteousness by America but as pawns for the Elitist,in the end time deception. Simply saying, watch.
OfLivingWaters
Active Member
"Were it not for God's choosing some, Heaven would have none." (Jer 13:23; John 6:38-9, 44)
One of the verses you quote. Who are the "Some" of God's choosing? If we are told be like Christ what does
that mean? That some of us are called to not be snipers but Christ like. Just saying.
In the south, yes. There are some moderate groups, Arab and Kurd, operating in a large swath of the northeast.
OfLivingWaters
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Those who follow the Lamb=therefore like the Lamb:
The Time of the End
1“Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued. 2“Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. 3“Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. 4“But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.”
5Then I, Daniel, looked and behold, two others were standing, one on this bank of the river and the other on that bank of the river. 6And one said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long will it be until the end of these wonders?” 7I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time; and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed. 8As for me, I heard but could not understand; so I said, “My lord, what will be the outcome of these events?” 9He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time. 10“Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand. 11“From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12“How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13“But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.”
The Time of the End
1“Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued. 2“Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. 3“Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. 4“But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.”
5Then I, Daniel, looked and behold, two others were standing, one on this bank of the river and the other on that bank of the river. 6And one said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long will it be until the end of these wonders?” 7I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time; and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed. 8As for me, I heard but could not understand; so I said, “My lord, what will be the outcome of these events?” 9He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time. 10“Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand. 11“From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12“How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13“But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.”
OfLivingWaters
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OfLivingWaters
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The FULNESS of the covenant consist of 288,000 people:Revelation 14
The Lamb and the 144,000
14 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they are virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.
TWO GROUPS CHOSEN FROM: The Grafted- brought to faith through the new covenant Yeshua and those who receive the fullness of it from the old covenant .
Revelation 7 144,000
7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
The Fullness of Rev.12 and the meaning of the sign's appearance in the celestial bodies with its conclusion over Israel Sept.23,2017. Those of it hear Christ voice. God Bless!.
The Lamb and the 144,000
14 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they are virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.
TWO GROUPS CHOSEN FROM: The Grafted- brought to faith through the new covenant Yeshua and those who receive the fullness of it from the old covenant .
Revelation 7 144,000
7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
The Fullness of Rev.12 and the meaning of the sign's appearance in the celestial bodies with its conclusion over Israel Sept.23,2017. Those of it hear Christ voice. God Bless!.
True, we as a nation are not sinless, we have the freedom to support our nation or not without repercussion.
When I went into the military people were running away to Canada to avoid going to Vietnam.
People are still free to leave if they can't stand it here or if they can't stand Trump. Most won't.
OfLivingWaters
Active Member
It is not about being for Trump or for the Obama nation.I am for neither as I said neither left or right. I am simply called to the one and holy nation, my mission Jesus, to all who will listen peasant or king, a kingdom within a kingdom. It matters not where I was born or placed -his kingdom is within. I serve no one but the Lord, and am subject to all whom God sets me before- to be, not as part of the subjugation but transcendence and setting free from chains. Be who you want be..... this gospel is to be preach to ALL Nations. And is embraced by those of transcendence.
tran·scend·ence
ˌtran(t)ˈsendəns/
noun
noun: transcendence; plural noun: transcendences; noun: transcendency
existence or experience beyond the normal or physical level.
synonyms: excellence, supremacy, incomparability, matchlessness, peerlessness, magnificence;
rareparamountcy
"the transcendence of love"
God Bless!
Thank you.
Generally after I kill something I generally gut it and skin it. Then I stretch out the skin and scrape off all the fat and sun dry it. I could make a drum out of it and give it to Reynolds. Regarding the head and innards, throw them in a hog pen.
No doubt about it, we are backing the terrorists. Seems like we did that about 35 years ago in Afghanistan. How'd that work out for us?
Amazing!
You can get chlorine from your local swimming pool...assuming there are any left in Syria
Putin now, we’ll have you read how they got rid of Stalin? Rat poison/ Warfarin introduced into his wine and food.
Sure ... even murderous sobs have purpose. When they hung Sadam he was left to strangle till his head popped off, Ben Laden was shot and pitched into the ocean for shark meat... there should be a price for being a mass murderer. In this life and the next.