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The facts about Trump policy of separating families at the border
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No, he didn't. He out smarted them. He gave them just what they were complaining about. But now they are complaining about him fixing the problem.
Democrats: Holding children apart from their parents is inhumane!
President Trump: Okay. Here is an Executive Order that children be kept with their parents.
Democrats: Holding children with their parents is inhumane!
He just made them look stupid and dishonest (which they are).
This is amazing. Outsmarted them? Yesterday you were going on about some sort of pedophile ring and how the separation of children and their families was necessary. If you believe that then apparently Trump has just thrown the children back into the arms of pedophiles in order to “outsmart” the Democrats. Let me know when you figure out how to get out of that hole you just dug yourself.
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No, he didn't. He out smarted them. He gave them just what they were complaining about. But now they are complaining about him fixing the problem.
Democrats: Holding children apart from their parents is inhumane!
President Trump: Okay. Here is an Executive Order that children be kept with their parents.
Democrats: Holding children with their parents is inhumane!
He just made them look stupid and dishonest (which they are).
Yeah, for the most part. This whole EO is a big exaggeration IMO, just look how toothless that thing is:
Read Trump's full executive order on family separation
it's just a technical point - the worst thing that could happen was the whole family was released after 20 days and that's going to be up for appeal.
There are other loopholes after loopholes in that, and it's to the point who implements this, not how. Sure wasn't enough for Kamala Harris:
This Executive Order doesn’t fix the crisis. Indefinitely detaining children with their families in camps is inhumane and will not make us safe.
— Kamala Harris (@SenKamalaHarris) June 20, 2018
and even (Little) Marco Rubio sees right through her:
The ink isn’t even dry on the new executive order ending separation policy & some Democrats already arguing that keeping families together isn’t enough. Now they want them & their parents released after unlawful entry knowing full well that high % will never appear for hearing
— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) June 20, 2018
it's NEVER enough for them, and all the gloating I've seen here and elsewhere that Trump "caved" just isn't true and I'm sure he noted it, he knew all along that what they really want is a return to catch and release.
What is "getting started money?" Medicaid is not available to illegal immigrants.
Medicare for green card holder, Medical and Medicaid insurance for GreenCard and US immigrants
Medicaid
Medicaid is health program for eligible individuals and families with low incomes and resources. It is a means-tested program that is jointly funded by the states and federal government, and is managed by the states. Each state may have its own name for the program. Examples include "Medi-Cal" in California, "MassHealth" in Massachusetts, and "TennCare" in Tennessee
Eligibility
- Limited income is one of the primary requirements for Medicaid eligibility.
- Other requirements include, but are not limited to, age, pregnancy, disability, blindness, income and resources, and one's status as a U.S. citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant.
- Special rules exist for those living in a nursing home and disabled children living at home. A child may be covered under Medicaid if she or he is a U.S. citizen or a legal resident of the U.S
- A child may be eligible for Medicaid regardless of the eligibility status of his or her parents or guardians.
- Patients with Aids with T cell count of 200 or under
- Must be resident of the plan offering state.
Apply for asylum at a port of entry is entirely legal.
so? Most of them get caught and apply for asylum NOT at a point of entry.
you won't read it, it contradicts what you want to believe:
How American Citizens Finance $18.5 Billion In Health Care For Unauthorized Immigrants
Health Insurance for Immigrants | Covered California™
and, in Maryland:
why they flood the emergency rooms even when you're over 2000 miles north of their border. Good thing they still triage.
you won't read it, it contradicts what you want to believe:
How American Citizens Finance $18.5 Billion In Health Care For Unauthorized Immigrants
Health Insurance for Immigrants | Covered California™
and, in Maryland:
why they flood the emergency rooms even when you're over 2000 miles north of their border. Good thing they still triage.
I was talking about the legal entrants such as the Somalis who were allowed to come here legally. Each refugee gets an initial $1850.00 upon arrival. If they need more money they can get it through TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) for those in the U.S. for up to 8 months.
As I reported earlier, the Somali refugee I talked to immediately got SSI Disability, including the appropriate health care program.
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So now, not only do you want us to take in and support the worlds healthy people, you want us to take in and provide financial support and medical care to the worlds infirm? Good grief, are you for real? Just listen to yourself!
We have a Constitution and there is not one word in it that gives the Federal government the power to take money from the American citizen and dole it out to foreigners - not one word! I am getting sick and tired of being out on the road as a long distance truck driver, away from my family for 17-18 days at a time, and seeing my money taken from me and going to people who have no claim to it. It's bad enough that I have to support many non - working American citizens, but seeing it go to foreigners is just too much.
As I said, I do my part following Gods word on charitable giving, but other than paying to finance those enumerated powers that the Federal government is given via the Constitution, that should be the extent of the amount the government gets. For far too long successive governments of both political parties have been reckless with the people's money and the resulting debt they have racked is nothing less than a compete outrage.
We are now 20 trillion dollars in the hole, and to take care of the next refugee we allow into the country we have to go out and borrow the money. To send millions of dollars to those Central American countries we again, have to go out and borrow the money. Enough is enough! We cannot take care of the whole world, we are broke, can you at long last understand that?
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Yes, we all know that. But entering this country without proper documentation is a crime. Thus the arrests.
You obviously didn't read the text of the EO. LOL!
Then tear down the Statue of Liberty if you want to play the part of Dives to the Third World's Lazarus. You're the wealthiest country in the world so if you're broke then there should be better ways to balance the budget than kicking the poor into the long grass
Not a big enough crime apparentlyYes, we all know that. But entering this country without proper documentation is a crime. Thus the arrests.
I am all for sending the Statue of Liberty back to France. We are living in a different world my friend, and the platitude that is written on it's base does not cut it anymore. Only in some cooked up fantasy are we perceived as the richest country in the world, and perception in our case is no longer the reality. Contrary to the popular notion, our streets are not paved with gold.
Our main problem is the "entitlements", the government giveaways to people that has no basis in our great Constitution. This amount is now 45% of the whole budget and unless something is done it will devour more than half of the whole budget within a decade. We are swamped with spending on our own citizens, let alone spending on foreigners who have no claim on our money whatsoever. Like a true liberal, reality never enters into the equation for you, it's all about your do-gooder desire to help others, all done with other peoples money and without their consent.
Please try to fathom this one more time and get it through what seems to be your thick head - we are 20 PLUS TRILLION dollars in debt, and the interest on that debt is now in the BILLIONS. This debt amount keeps increasing upward with each passing day, foisted upon us by a government that refuses to rein in it's spending. We no longer can afford to be the welfare center of the world. It's over, done, finished, we are cooked and it's time to stick a fork in the whole kit and caboodle - got that?
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Then you need to find a better way of balancing your budget that doesn't involve beating the poor
We can balance the budget by adhering to the Constitution of the United States. Only those things expressly spelled out are to be included in the Federal budget, all other spending is to be left to the individual states. As for the "poor", they have no more right to any federal dollars than any foreign national.
Long before all these entitlements were enacted, and all the foreign aid was sent out, the poor and indigent were taken care of by religious and other charitable organizations and if there is any hope of saving the Republic that is where we must return to. If we continue on our path there is nothing in our future but complete and total financial ruin.
I was quoting the medicaid law. Surprise, surprise your article says the same thing:
Medicaid. Under Medicaid and CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program), no federal funding may be used to cover unauthorized immigrants, except for payment for limited emergency services. Specifically, "Medicaid payments for emergency services may be made on behalf of individuals who are otherwise eligible for Medicaid but for their immigration status. These payments cover costs for emergency care for lawfully present immigrants who remain ineligible for Medicaid as well as undocumented immigrants
This is the statement in your article about Obamacare requirements:
ACA. Under the ACA, immigrants must be lawfully present to purchase insurance in a Qualified Health Plan, or to be eligible for an Advance Payment for Premium Tax Credit or Cost-Sharing Reduction.
The article goes on to point out areas in which we do fund medical care for undocumented immigrants.
Rather than scream out untruths, why can't we have a bi-partisan committee look at these and decide how we want to deal with them? But ask yourself, what would you want to happen if you were on a trip abroad as a U.S. citizen (an undocumented citizen of the country you're in) and didn't have international coverage on your insurance? If you have a serious heart attack should you die in the street without medical care?
You're darned straight I am ENTITLED to Medicare and Social Security. My employers and I paid into them for my over 40 year career as an engineer. At that time, I was paying for your father or grandfather. You will get a fight if you take away what I've paid for.
Arrests and separation of families requesting asylum is illegal. That is what we're talking about here.Yes, we all know that. But entering this country without proper documentation is a crime. Thus the arrests.
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