The Gospel of the Kingdom

[Yeshua1]

What school

Assemblies of God, which was interesting, as on pathway to becoming a baptist while being taught there!

 

[JonC]

There is the New Covenant, which was how sinners were able to get reconciled and restored back to God, that is the theme of someone like Paul in both Galatians and Romans, individual salvation!
The Apostle preached that sinners turn and trust in Jesus to get saved!

The passages I provided were from the NT.

In fact, one of the very last things the Bible says about Paul is that he was in Rome proclaiming the Kingdom of God.

Is there a reason you find the gospel of the Kingdom of God (the gospel the Bible says Jesus proclaimed, the Apostles taught, and Paul preached) to be so difficult to accept?

Maybe that would be a good place to start.

Why do you believe Luke took the time to tell us the final thing about Paul's life and ministry as Paul in Rome preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God?

 

[Yeshua1]

The passages I provided were from the NT.

In fact, one of the very last things the Bible says about Paul is that he was in Rome proclaiming the Kingdom of God.

Is there a reason you find the gospel of the Kingdom of God (the gospel the Bible says Jesus proclaimed, the Apostles taught, and Paul preached) to be so difficult to accept?

Maybe that would be a good place to start.

Why do you believe Luke took the time to tell us the final thing about Paul's life and ministry as Paul in Rome preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God?

maybe because there was a reformation based upon Justification itself?

 

[JonC]

maybe because there was a reformation based upon Justification itself?

Are you being serious?

The Reformation does not define the gospel.

Scripture tells us that this gospel preached by Christ and the Apostles was the gospel of the Kingdom of God.

That should be the end of the argument. Scripture - not the Reformation- is the authority for doctrine.

 

[Yeshua1]

Are you being serious?

The Reformation does not define the gospel.
The main point of the scriptures that forced the reformation was how does a lost sinner get right with a Holy God?
Scripture tells us that this gospel preached by Christ and the Apostles was the gospel of the Kingdom of God.

That should be the end of the argument. Scripture - not the Reformation- is the authority for doctrine.

 

[tyndale1946]

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Acts 1:3To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

Acts 1:6When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Acts 8:12But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
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Acts 14:22Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Acts 19:8And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.

Acts 20:25And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

Acts 28:23And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

Acts 28:31Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Romans 14:17For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 4:20For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

1 Corinthians 6:9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

1 Corinthians 6:10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 15:24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

1 Corinthians 15:50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Galatians 5:21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Colossians 1:13Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Colossians 4:11And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me.

1 Thessalonians 2:12That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

2 Thessalonians 1:5Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

2 Timothy 4:1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 Timothy 4:18And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Hebrews 1:8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.



Hebrews 12:28Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

You know Iconoclast sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I don't, and on this I agree and I might add you have the prettiest and most colorful posts on the board... Brother Glen

 

[Iconoclast]

You know Iconoclast sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I don't, and on this I agree and I might add you have the prettiest and most colorful posts on the board... Brother Glen

Hello Brother,
Glad we can agree as much as we do.
I am a work in progress for sure,lol.
Sometimes I do not even agree with myself
I go with what I know until I can see some scriptural correction.
I find most of that scriptural correction coming from the Puritans and Reformers who knew the word of God fairly well.
Even they held to some teaching I find off a bit.
I enjoy your posts as you have a grasp on the grace of God

ps...if my posts are in black and white they ate from my phone like now.
Some do not like the colors but God created colors so I use them!

 

[Iconoclast]

Good post.

I think what concerns me most, Iconoclast, is that the Kingdom is the context in which all of these other doctrines (justification, sanctification, even forgiveness) exist. We are not saved for the sake of God saving us, but we are saved for God's purposes, for His glory, and to be His people (to be participants in God's Kingdom).

A few weeks ago I was teaching in Luke and read the verse about Jesus proclaiming the gospel of God's kingdom. One member was shocked and said that she considered the gospel to be the Cross. My response is that we can NEVER minimalize the Cross - but even the Cross (God's reconciling man to Himself) falls within the overarching doctrine of the Kingdom of God.

I am just amazed sometimes that this is overlooked in favor of teaching "component" doctrines (which are important as well). And I have been guilty of doing the same. I guess it is easy to forget even our redemption has as it's end not a focus on saving man but on glorifying God. Scripture even tells us this, but it is so easy to get caught up in the trees we forget about the forest.

In Galatians 3 :8 the Covenant promises were spoken of as the gospel being preached to Abraham.
Of course the cross work of the Lord is central in the Covenant Redemption, but you have correctly pointed out that it all falls under the Kingdom of God.
Dispensational thought wrongly understood fragments the understanding of these matters.

 

[Iconoclast]

The Gospel itself is Pauline Justification!

Gal 3:8

 

[percho]

Throughout the Old Testament we see one very prevalent theme – that is this kingdom that God is going to establish through the Anointed One (through the Messiah or Christ). We see this in the Psalms, we see this very clearly in Ezekiel, Jeremiah, and Isaiah.

In the Gospels we read that Jesus proclaimed the gospel of the kingdom of God, that this kingdom has come near.

The parables of Christ speak of this kingdom.
This kingdom is like a man who sowed good seed….
This kingdom is like a mustard seed….
This kingdom is like leaven….
This kingdom is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls….
This kingdom is like a dragnet…..
This kingdom is like a householder who brings….
This kingdom is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts….
This kingdom is like a landowner….
This kingdom is like a certain king who arranged a marriage…
This kingdom is like a man traveling to a far country…..

Jesus preached “Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matt 4:17); Jesus taught in the synagogues proclaiming “the gospel of the kingdom” (Matt 4:23); Jesus went throughout the cities “proclaiming and preaching the kingdom of God” (Luke 8:1); Jesus said to them “I must preach the kingdom of God to the other5 cities also, for I was sent for this purpose” (Luke 4:23).

Paul preached this kingdom (Romans 14; 1 Corinthians 4:20, 6:9, 10; Galatians 5; Ephesians 5:5; Col. 1:13, 4; 1 Thess 1; 2 Timothy 4).

But I have noticed a tendency to shy away from "Kingdom language" (I noticed this on a recent thread, but I've also noticed this in churches). In a way, there seems to be a desire to reduce the gospel to atonement, or to the forgiveness of sins, or to getting to heaven. Scripture teaches us that the Cross was God reconciling man to Himself, forgiving their sins. There seems, however, to be a purpose behind this act - not just forgiving man's sins but reconciling mankind for a purpose.

Nicodemus asks what he must do to be saved. Jesus answered that to enter the Kingdom one must be born again.

I am not, of course, suggesting that we refrain from preaching "Christ crucified". But I am suggesting that preaching "Christ crucified" is more than preaching the death and resurrection of Christ. The main theme is, and has always been, the Kingdom of God. And the gospel is that the Kingdom has come - the Cross (Incarnation to the Resurrection) is how the Kingdom has come and the rebirth is how men enter the Kingdom.

A few things I would like you to share your thoughts.

Luke 19:11,12 Now as they heard these things, He spoke another parable, because He was near Jerusalem and because they thought the kingdom of God would appear immediately. Therefore He said: “A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return.

How is that relative to the Kingdom of God? Is it that, kingdom of God, that requires flesh the need of being born from above? Is that, flesh, the flesh spoken of in Lev 17:11 Darby for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul. Is that the same, flesh and blood, he partook of? Heb 2:14 KJV Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; Is that the flesh and blood that cannot inherit the kingdom of God? 1 Cor 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Was the heir of all things: Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Changed in order to inherit the kingdom of God? When? Why did Paul preach the kingdom of God, the gospel, beginning with the death and resurrection? Why is the death and the rising out of the dead, no more to return to corruption, so important to the kingdom of God and to being born from above?

John 16:7 KJV Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: (In death?) for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Acts 2:32,33 “This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. “Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.

Romans 8

 

[Iconoclast]

What Does Justification Have to do with the Gospel? by Sinclair Ferguson

Good link.Glad you have recently offered some links.
Sinclair is correcting NT Wright on npp.
He i s and not looking at the broader view of the kingdom in the article.

 

[percho]

Gal 3:8

Is Gal 3:8 exactly about what I just posted to Jon?

In thee shall all nations be blessed. Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Gal 3:2 YLT this only do I wish to learn from you -- by works of law the Spirit did ye receive, or by the hearing of faith?

Makes me wonder what they heard about, by which they received the Spirit, rather than the means of how to receive.

 

[JonC]

In Galatians 3 :8 the Covenant promises were spoken of as the gospel being preached to Abraham.
Of course the cross work of the Lord is central in the Covenant Redemption, but you have correctly pointed out that it all falls under the Kingdom of God.
Dispensational thought wrongly understood fragments the understanding of these matters.

yes....and continuing to Paul's conclusion in verse 29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

 

[tyndale1946]

Hello Brother,
Glad we can agree as much as we do.
I am a work in progress for sure,lol.
Sometimes I do not even agree with myself
I go with what I know until I can see some scriptural correction.
I find most of that scriptural correction coming from the Puritans and Reformers who knew the word of God fairly well.
Even they held to some teaching I find off a bit.
I enjoy your posts as you have a grasp on the grace of God

ps...if my posts are in black and white they ate from my phone like now.
Some do not like the colors but God created colors so I use them!

Yeah... I think that is one of the reasons In The Light left the board, it had something to do with his phone and your posts... Been trying to grasp the grace of God since I first joined and I grow more and more each day... Speaking of the Puritans just finished The Holy Spirit by John Owen and then started an OP "Can an unregenerate man repent?" but its finished now... A lot of them got it wrong... Oh well!...... So goes the board... See you around Tony... Brother Glen

 

[Van]

According to Rom 5:10 were they reconciled to God by the death of His Son even while being enemies ? Simple yes or no ? Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Your misunderstanding of Romans 5:10, is the we were unregenerate when Christ died, and therefore "enemies" but only when they "received" the reconciliation by being placed in Christ, were they reconciled. By the death does not mean at the time of His death, but rather the reconciliation whenever it happens to us during our lifetime, was accomplished by means of His death. Simple!

Romans 5:11
And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Thus they received the reconciliation during their lifetime, and prior to receiving the reconciliation they were not reconciled.
Your view is obviously false. Why can you not see it?

 

[JonC]

A few things I would like you to share your thoughts.

Luke 19:11,12 Now as they heard these things, He spoke another parable, because He was near Jerusalem and because they thought the kingdom of God would appear immediately. Therefore He said: “A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return.

How is that relative to the Kingdom of God? Is it that, kingdom of God, that requires flesh the need of being born from above? Is that, flesh, the flesh spoken of in Lev 17:11 Darby for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul. Is that the same, flesh and blood, he partook of? Heb 2:14 KJV Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; Is that the flesh and blood that cannot inherit the kingdom of God? 1 Cor 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Was the heir of all things: Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Changed in order to inherit the kingdom of God? When? Why did Paul preach the kingdom of God, the gospel, beginning with the death and resurrection? Why is the death and the rising out of the dead, no more to return to corruption, so important to the kingdom of God and to being born from above?

John 16:7 KJV Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: (In death?) for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Acts 2:32,33 “This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. “Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.

Romans 8

I think that the meaning of the parable is linked to the reason Jesus offered the parable. His audience thought that the kingdom of God would appear immediately.

A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return. I believe this refers to Christ.

He calls His servants and gives to them ten minas (I believe this could mean spiritual gifts or even a knowledge of the Truth, but I suspect it is more – it is a part of this kingdom the nobleman had ventured to the far country to receive.

Some men worked in this kingdom (I’d say that they entered into the kingdom to an extent) for the Kingdom was within them (it is what the nobleman gave to t hem in the form of the ten minas). But others do nothing. They hold on to the “truth” of the kingdom.

I believe that much of Christianity today is like the ones who have the ten minas and do nothing. They accept the “truth of the kingdom” but never participate in that kingdom. The focus is on doctrine (like the gospel being the doctrine of Justification) but never realize the fuller implications of what has been given (or what has been done).

So I see the point of the parable as saying that the kingdom of God is here in one sense (and we are to be active in this kingdom) but it has not yet arrived in it’s fullest form (what has been given will grow, and in this sense the kingdom of God is being established as men are reconciled to God).

 

[Brightfame52]

Your misunderstanding of Romans 5:10, is the we were unregenerate when Christ died, and therefore "enemies" but only when they "received" the reconciliation by being placed in Christ, were they reconciled. By the death does not mean at the time of His death, but rather the reconciliation whenever it happens to us during our lifetime, was accomplished by means of His death. Simple!

Romans 5:11
And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Thus they received the reconciliation during their lifetime, and prior to receiving the reconciliation they were not reconciled.
Your view is obviously false. Why can you not see it?

You not being true to the verse. See they were reconciled to God while being enemies, by Christs death Rom 5:10

 

[JonC]

You not being true to the verse. See they were reconciled to God while being enemies, by Christs death Rom 5:10

We can't ignore the rest of the passage (that men are still unreconciled to God and the ministry of reconciliation continues through us).

God was reconciling man (mankind, humanity) to Himself but there remains a ministry of reconciliation towards men (individuals) towards whom we appeal to be reconciled to God.

The first makes the latter possible.

 

[Van]

You not being true to the verse. See they were reconciled to God while being enemies, by Christs death Rom 5:10

You did not understand. Everyone placed into Christ was not reconciled before being placed into Christ, thus enemies. My view is 100% true to all scripture. You view has people reconciled 2000 years ago yet receiving reconciliation later. It is nonsense, Sir.

 

[Brightfame52]

We can't ignore the rest of the passage (that men are still unreconciled to God and the ministry of reconciliation continues through us).

God was reconciling man (mankind, humanity) to Himself but there remains a ministry of reconciliation towards men (individuals) towards whom we appeal to be reconciled to God.

The first makes the latter possible.

Im not ignoring anything. Im emphasizing something in the verse which should not be overlooked. The verse plainly states they were reconciled[aorist past tense] while being[present tense] enemies, by the death of Gods Son. Now that cannot be down played.