As you keep repeating, you clearly think that Satan is my god, and I am under his dominion, Otherwise why would you even ask stupid questions that don't dignify an answer.
That was not my intent,
Monsieur, and I offer my apologies for you inferring that from that question. The reason why I asked you is to hopefully gender some thought from you on your stance. If you belong to God, you are no longer under Satan's rule, but God. That is what makes us different from the world. The world is referring to the lost, and we have been chosen out of it and its and Satan no longer has us as his servants. Satan works in those who are disobedient, and we are no longer that. Now, the only reason why we are obedient is because of Christ's obedience. When we sin(and yes we sin), we are being disobedient, and I will never deny that. But then the chastening of the Lord takes place as He chastens them He loves. When you we growing up, when you disobeyed your parent(s), you were corrected I am sure. But that does not mean that you were under someone else's rule. You still belonged to them. When we sin, we are not under Satan's authority because God corrects us with His 'rod of correction.' It is this 'rod of correction' that shows us we belong to Him.
Is the MO here to assume one is unregenerate unless they tell you otherwise, or are you just assuming that of all non-Cals.?
Already addressed this.
Good for you. At least now you admit you are "dwelling in the world, the kingdom of Satan."
We live in the world, but we are no longer of it. HUGE difference,
Monsieur.
Your understanding of English is clearly not very good.
Very charitable of you.
Never did I say that you Satan was your god.
Nor did I. I clarified that. Again, my apologies.
But I did say that we lived in this world, and Satan is the god of this world.
Yes we live in this world, but Satan is not the 'god' of all its inhabitants. That will never be properly exegeted from any passages in the bible. Satan is
As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
Here it shows that Satan is the ruler of the kingdom of the air and I do not deny it. But who does he have as his servants? It is those who are disobedient. In other words, the unregenerate.
All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved.
Here it shows that we, too, once lived in the world. We not only lived in the world, be we were of the world. We were gratifying the cravings of our flesh. But when God made us alive in Christ, we became no longer of the world, though we still live in the world.
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Here you can see that we are already in Christ. He has taken us from Satan's dominion(kingdom) and seated us with Christ in the heavenly realm(kingdom of the Son He loves).
If you don't understand how those facts go together you need to go back to your Bible, or at least to what I have already explained. Our victory is in Christ.
Correct. And if Satan has rule of you, me and whoever else, then God is not our ruler. We can only have one ruler in our life. We can not have two. Satan is the ruler over the lost in the world and not the believers. He has no more authority than God lets him have. If he was the true ruler of this earth, there would not be any people alive. He would first have the Christians obliterated to stop us from spreading the gospel and then have the rest of the lost turn on each other. If God did not hold him back, this world, no one could live on it. He is that evil.
It is possible to be a "Carnal Christian" however.
His sheep follow Him and not Satan.
Not everyone is submitted to the Holy Spirit at all times as is evidenced on this thread.
Agreed. But those who live repentant lives do just that, repent. The 'carnal Christian' does not live this life.
Okay, let me ask you this scenario. You baptize 'Leroy' after conversing with him, counseling him. Within a few months you begin hearing rumblings of him frequenting strip clubs, bars, cheating on his wife, dabbling with drugs. You go to him after the steps in Matthew 18 have been taken. No change is made in 'Leroy' and your church has to kick him out. He then dies in an accident of him driving impaired. His family knows you were the pastor of the church he once attended. Would you be willing to tell them that 'Leroy', in accordance to how he lived his life, is at rest with God? Look, none of us know who is and isn't in heaven. But we do have confidence in some that we can say we believe they are resting with God. Would you be willing to say that? I would not. Why? His lifestyle did not conform to the image of a child of God as recorded in the bible. That is what the 'carnal christian' lifestyle looks like. Just because they were 'dunked', attended a church once in a while, if they live a life of debauchery, fornication, drug abuse, alcoholism, it's like, 'well, they are still babes in Christ.' Bull-lone-ey.
There have been many carnal posts and many things said that should have never been said. At least four times you have posted:
That is a real Holy Spirit-filled post isn't it? Was it the Holy Spirit or was it Satan-inspired? Or do you care to tell?
And again, you misread my question. And again, I offer you an apology from the depth of my heart.
The reason I don't answer is stupidity doesn't deserve an answer.
No. The reason why you won't answer it,
Monsieur, is because if you do, it will shoot a hole in you stance bigger than the iceberg did the Titanic.
There is only one world, cosmos, which is Satan's world, and he rules it.
Scripture easily refutes this ideology,
Monsieur. I am shocked that you take Satan at face value in Matthew 4:8. Jesus said he was a murderer from the beginning. He also said he was a lair and when he lies he speaks his native language.(John 8:44) Satan can not tell the truth and you say that when Satan told him those kingdoms he showed him was his to give, you believe Satan? I am amazed.
Hopefully, Christ is your Lord and Savior.
He is.
Through Him you can victory over your adversary who seeks to devour you, but he is a real adversary and the battle is a real battle.
Agree.
Just because we "have been translated" does not mean we are there yet.
Well, the kingdom is here and yet, not yet. It will come in its fullness upon Jesus' return. Even amils such as I hold to this ideology.
We still live in this cosmos, this physical world, where Satan has dominion. One may not "belong to the world," but he lives in it, and is very obviously influenced by it. Are you?
Here's the thing. Read the account of Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego. They lived in the world and were buffeted by Satan through Nebuchadnezzar. Yet, they were unwilling to bow down to that golden image. Others willingly bowed and worshipped that golden statute, but not them. Things like this is what separates the real Christians from those who claim they are, but when the times of persecution come, they buckle under the pressure. They worshipped God and were willing to be burned alive rather than serve other god(s). The Disciples after Christ's resurrection, would have been willing to be pulled apart by horses before they would deny their Lord, Saviour, and Master. Paul was willing to take 195 lashes, be bound in prison by chains, even be decapitated before denouncing Christ. John was willing to be boiled in oil(though according to historians it never boiled him) before He would denounce his God. David was ready to die at the hands of Goliath if need be. He knew that God would protect him, but he was still willing to die for Him. Then there is Job. No man has taken more punishment from Satan that this man did, in my opinion. If Satan was ruler of this world, Job would have been killed. God set limits on how much affliction Satan could do to Job. And Job did not blame God, either. He would have been willing to die.
So, just because we are buffeted by Satan, are influenced by him, it does not mean we are his. This world is God's and Satan has so much rule and God stops him when He deems it right to do so.
