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"And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne." - Revelation 8:3
I think you are showing no small ignorance here mate.
These are not mumbling confused men.
What you are seeing is the genuine worship of God for the first time.
Incense is the sign of our prayer intentions rising to God.
The Church of the Old Covenant did this and the Church of the New Covenant does this in Revelation.
Catholics burn “ much incense “ symbolising our prayer offering to God. Thousands of tons of it is burnt world wide before Jesus Altar and Tabernacle Throne.
My goodness, Cathode! These are angels performing rituals in the Temple of God in Heaven, honoring Christ.
No man has a part of this, this is the prayers of the saints being delivered before the Throne of God on behalf of Christ.
This is all in the future during the 7 years of Tribulation.
Our worship imitates Heaven, this what I have been saying.
What is done on Earth is done in Heaven.
That could only be said of someone who does not know what the New Covenant in Christ really means.
We Gentiles including Rome, have never had anything to do with the Law or the Temple of old.
Even the apostles ruled at the Jerusalem Decree that the Gentiles who were being saved were not to be held to the Law.
Paul told us we are dead to the Law, all of it, being that Christ has fulfilled it completely.
We are under Grace that the RCC has refused to be a part of. They are still living under the Law of their own making.
The style of worship in the Old Covenant is the prelude to New Covenant worship of The Kingdom.
Protestants worship God how they want to.
Catholics worship God how God wants.
It's strange to me how the master church builder (Apostle Paul) never told us about those weird RCC ways.
All that junk came from the traditions of men in apostasy after the apostles and those close to the apostles were gone.
Your church doesn’t bind on earth and in heaven, that’s why you find it strange.
That's conditional on being the will of God. And I hesitate not to say unto you, the RCC is not the will of God.
How do you know?
Don’t tell me the Bible, we have the Bible and we Canonised the Bible in the first place, had it longer than anyone else. The Bible is a Catholic Book.
Oh my goodness, lol, that's the best one I've heard in a while.
But seriously, what's bound on earth will be bound in heaven is 100% based on the will of God.
And so is 2 agreeing on anything and it shall be done for them.
You can't just ask for anything, it must be in the will and like-mindedness of the Father.
Apostolic Authority is God’s Authority handed down in the Catholic Church, and it wasn’t just 2 or three gathered at times, but all the bishops of the Church gathered.
That is why people need to listen to the Councils of the Church gathered in Christ’s Name.
The Apostles took their apostleship to the grave with them!
You're not speaking Scripture, you're speaking of the traditions of men neck deep in apostasy.
Like Luther, Calvin and all the human founders in Baptist and Protestant traditions.
They weren't perfect and they made many mistakes, but they did point us back to "the just shall live by faith."
Not by what the Church decided for them to live by, which was works.
No they apostatised.
True Faith is expressed by good works.
Not mere intellectual assent alone. Faith without Works is dead.
So I'll just leave you to your works, and show you my faith by my works.
That’s right, Faith expressed by Works.
Not intellectual assent alone.
No, the bible is the Book of God, inspited by the Holy Spirit, and written by Apostles and Prophets, NOTHING Rome had a hand inHow do you know?
Don’t tell me the Bible, we have the Bible and we Canonised the Bible in the first place, had it longer than anyone else. The Bible is a Catholic Book.
No, its called "rightly dividing the word of God", which both charismatics and Catholics have a very hard time to in doingIt’s not an ignorance problem they have, it’s a faith problem.
Far from it, my friend! It's works proving an already established faith!
This is the one that's going to get a lot of folks in deep trouble one day!