The limits of free will...

You post the same things as well!

Interesting that you mention rubbish and the Institutes in the same context.

You complain about my attitude toward Calvinism, yet you call my viewpoint rubbish. I believe the pot just called the kettle black!

 

Excellent Point JesusFan.

 

I do not post your sort of trite nonsensical lines that you repeat ad nauseam.

Your rubbish is the old canard that everying I believe is filtered through the lens of John Calvin. Please get a new gig Robert.

Get a new act. You're dyin' on stage.

I was being polite by calling your constant lies rubbish. Try telling the truth for a change. And,as I have asked you before --read and study instead of posting your potshots.

 

GL

Here is your question:

What say the persons holding a free will perspective? Limits or not? Please justify your response in some fashion instead of making "I think so..." statements.

I do not believe in LFW so I cant answer. If man contributes any essential part towards his salvation, he effectively becomes his own savior..... thats my belief.

 

So Fredrick, since no one seems to want to answer your question why don't you answer it for us. Knowing your view point most know that if they answer the question that all you will do is use it against them try and prove that you are right and that they are wrong. Why bother? For me who has some problems with fully accepting limited atonement and irresistible grace there is no point in continuing the argument. It's been debated ad nausea and as of yet I have not been convinced that five pointers have a fool proof lock down. It's not as cut and dry as you would make it out to be.

 

I should think my statement is crystal clear! I should clarify, my statement centers around atonement. The efficacy of atonement centers on Christs saving work alone not on a sinners faith & repentance.

 

so in other words your saying that for fear of retaliation your not answering a question that should be paramount to you Faith Belief.....that's some assurance you got there Pastor.

 

So, by your own statement and the fact that 'faith' is essential, you believe that anyone who does not hold the Calvinistic view of salvation, is unsaved. You must because if anyone is their 'own' savior they hold to a false gospel and is, without question, unsaved.

BTW - just to qualify my stance, I don't hold to LFW. I believe in limited freedom. The freedom's limits are determined by God, via the choices he gives them.
It is important to define with LFW is as it is defined differently by various people. The C's define it differently than those who actually hold to the view. I don't know if it has been fleshed out in the this thread.