The New Testament...Is it inspired Scripture ?

Paul was referring to the OT only. The NT writings had not yet been completed, and many of them had not even been penned yet. Those that had been penned had not been widely circulated.

However, it is right and proper to consider the NT divinely inspired in the same light as the OT.

 

And is Mr. Woodrow Kroll the overall authority on this subject? I would suggest possibly not because I have read differing opinions on a few other sites that I scan through from time to time.

 

Question: "Is there proof for the inspiration of the Bible?"

Answer: Here are some evidences that the Bible is from God:
1) Fulfilled prophecy. God spoke to men telling them of things that He would bring about in the future. Some of them have already occurred. Others have not. For example, there were more than 300 prophecies concerning Jesus Christ's first coming 2,000 years ago. There is no doubt that these are prophecies from God because of manuscripts and scrolls dated before the birth of Christ. These were not written after the fact. They were written beforehand. Scientific dating proves this.

2) The unity of Scripture. The Bible was written by approximately 40 human authors over a period of approximately 1,600 years. These men were quite diverse. Moses, a political leader; Joshua, a military leader; David, a shepherd; Solomon, a king; Amos, a herdsman and fruit pincher; Daniel, a prime minister; Matthew, a tax collector; Luke, a medical doctor; Paul, a rabbi; and Peter, a fisherman. The Bible was also written under a variety of circumstances. It was written on 3 different continents, Europe, Asia, and Africa. Yet, the great themes of Scripture are maintained in all the writings. The Bible does not contradict itself. There is no way apart from God the Holy Spirit supervising the writing of the Bible that this could have been accomplished.

Contrast this with the Islamic Koran. It was compiled by one individual, Zaid bin Thabit, under the guidance of Mohammed's father-in-law, Abu-Bekr. Then in A.D. 650, a group of Arab scholars produced a unified version and destroyed all variant copies to preserve the unity of the Koran. The Bible was unified from the time of its writing. The Koran had to be unified through the editing of men.

3) The Bible presents its heroes truthfully with all of their faults and weaknesses. It does not glorify men as other religions do about their heroes. When you read the Bible, you realize that the people it speaks of have problems and do wrong just as we do. What made them great was that they trusted in God. One example is David. David is described as a man after God's own heart (1 Samuel 13:14). Yet, David committed adultery (2 Samuel 11:1-5) and murder (2 Samuel 11:14-26). This could have been left out of Scripture to hide these details of David's life. But, God included these things.

4) Archaeological findings support the history recorded in Scripture. Though many unbelieving people throughout history have tried to find archaeological evidence to disprove what is recorded in Scripture, they have failed. It is easy to say that Scripture is untrue. Proving it to be untrue is a different story. It has not been done.

The Bible’s claims of being from God should not be understood as arguing in a circle or by circular reasoning. The testimony of reliable witnesses - particularly of Jesus, but also of others such as Moses, Joshua, David, Daniel, and Nehemiah in the Old Testament, and John and Paul in the New Testament - affirmed the authority and verbal inspiration of the Holy Scriptures. Consider the following passages: Exodus 14:1; 20:1; Leviticus 4:1; Numbers 4:1; Deuteronomy 4:2; 32:48; Isaiah 1:10, 24; Jeremiah 1:11; Jeremiah 11:1–3; Ezekiel 1:3; 1 Corinthians 14:37; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Peter 1:16–21; 1 John 4:6.

You also might be interested in the writings of Josephus. He was an historian who recorded much of the history of Israel during the first century. In this he records some events which coincide with Scripture. Beware though - his writings are rather lengthy.

Considering the evidence given, I have no choice but to accept the Bible as being from God (2 Timothy 3:16). I pray this information helps you and adequately answers you question. Keep Studying the Word! 2 Timothy 2:15
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If you do not believe that Peter, Paul, etc. were writing what was given to them by God, then you lie when you say that you believe the entire bible.

 

Piony,

You CANNOT "believe" Paul and Peter and "not believe" that their writing is inspired by God.

Either they are honestly stating what God gave them or they are not.

And if hearing that upsets you - I'm sorry, but I won't back down to anyone on whether or not the New Testament is the inspired work of God, especially not to make someone else feel better about saying it isn't.

 

you would slap a woman, and then shoot her? wow....

 

Not to mention ignoring 1 Timothy 1:11

According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust. 12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

There is the statement you claim does not exist.

 

And here it is again in 11 Timothy 1

11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles. 12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day

 

1 Corinthians 14:37
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

 

And here is John's testimony regarding it:

1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

 

Actually,

I do believe in the entire bible.

You have expressed doubts that the bible is the inspired word of God. If it is not, it is a work of fiction or a lie. In either case, if you do not believe God inspired it, you cannot really believe it. It is a simple equation. Either it is inspired of God, or it is blaspheme because it teaches things as if they are of God.

I never claimed that things like Sunday School are commanded by God. That has nothing to do with my belief in God's word.

The bible says to make a joyful noise before the Lord, to enter His presence with joy and thanksgiving. There is indication in the old testament that included some musical instrumentation. Therefore, if people want to sing, shout or play music to praise God, I support them 100%.

The bible has always encouraged people to study God's word. It has always encouraged fellowship. Whether you do that in a private home or in a church building is, to me, irrelevant, as long as you do both.

Is my church based on the New Testament example? Let's see. We gather together in Christian love and fellowship. We study and teach the gospel of Christ. We lift one another up in prayer. We praise and worship God. Sounds pretty biblical to me.

The debate about whether or not churces are following God's pattern is NOT the same as the debate over whether or not the New Testament is the inspired word of God.

So I'll ask you plainly. If you do NOT believe the New Testament is the inspired word of God - why do you believe any of it?

 

P.S. - You have proven absolutely nothing to me. The New Testament IS the inspired word of God.

Christ Himself told the disciples to go and preach the Gospel. Peter, Paul, and John all refer to their writing as teaching that same Gospel. Revelation literally states that God told John to record what he writes. Paul, Peter and John reference the events in Matthew,Mark and Like and CALL them the gospel.

You are talking in circles.

Either you believe the bible or you do not.
Either you believe the New Testament is the inspired word of God, or you don't.
If it is. It is a wonderful, beautiful message from God that has lasted through the centuries, it accurately records the events of Christ's life, it accurately teaches the followers of Christ how to live since He returned to His father's throne.
If it is not - It is a lie.
Its all that simple.

You can't have "gray" areas in that regards.
Either it IS inspired by God or it is not.

 

Actually you didn't. You offered an editorial written by another man, whose opinion you obviously share. You were given after that another opinion by another man who differed a little from your mans opinion. So there was nothing definitive about your claim.

 

If the bible is NOT the inspired word of God - why do you claim Romans as your scripture?

 

Piony,

WHAT does Sunday School have to do with ANY of this discussion? You did NOT post, "Show me the support for Sunday School," in your post. You posted a post asking if the New Testament was really inspired scripture and then you argued against it being so.

I gave you scriptures regarding the New Testament.

Now you are changing your statements.

No, my claim that I believe the bible is NOT exaggerated. Once again, I never said that church buildings or Sunday Schools are in there. Ergo, your arguement in that regards has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not the New Testament is the inspired word of God or not.

As to you playing the cynic - I think that was a horribly foolish thing to do. OBVIOUSLY several of us assumed that you SERIOUSLY are saying that the New Testament is NOT the inspired word of God. The truth is, given your endorsement of words against it, and your failure to post anythign supporting it, I still think you do not believe the New Testament.

You were given numerous opportunities to say, plainly, "I agree it is inspired, but please give me scriptures to support this." You did NOT. Instead you posted things to the contrary by a man that you now say you respect.

How many unbelievers or new christians stumbled onto this site during this discussion and went away going, "Yeah, Piony is right. The New Testament is NOT the inspired word of God. It was NOT given to those men as scripture?" Who will never come back?

I will tell you, that anyone who does not believe the New Testament is of God, and does not believe a personal committment to God matters to a Christian is NOT the person who should be telling new Christians how to follow Christ.