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[Eternally Grateful]

Jesus promised resurrection because of eating His flesh and drinking His blood. So your mortal body must die to be resurrected to eternal life. You don’t eat His flesh and drink His blood, you have a symbolic understanding.

Jesus didn’t say His flesh and blood was symbolic food and symbolic drink.

Jesus said “ My flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. “

“ Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you “

“ Heaven and Earth will pass away, but my Words will never pass away “

Stand on Jesus Word, nothing is surer. Believe.

Jesus said whoever eats will never hunger never thirst they will live forever. Never be lost they have eternal life and his assurance he will raise them on the last day

The Eucharistic sacrifice promises none of these things

Again study John 6

 

[Cathode]

Jesus said whoever eats will never hunger never thirst they will live forever. Never be lost they have eternal life and his assurance he will raise them on the last day

The Eucharistic sacrifice promises none of these things

Again study John 6

To eat Jesus flesh and drink His blood is to partake of His immortality.


“For as to what we say concerning the reality of Christ’s nature within us, unless we have been taught by Him, our words are foolish and impious. For He says Himself, My flesh is meat indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. He that eateth My flesh and drinketh My blood abideth in Me, and I in him. As to the verity of the flesh and blood there is no room left for doubt. For now both from the declaration of the Lord Himself and our own faith, it is verily flesh and verily blood. And these when eaten and drunk, bring it to pass that both we are in Christ and Christ in us. Is not this true? Yet they who affirm that Christ Jesus is not truly God are welcome to find it false. He therefore Himself is in us through the flesh and we in Him, whilst together with Him our own selves are in God.” Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, 8:14 (inter A.D. 356-359).

The assurance is if we actually eat Jesus flesh and drink His blood as He says. Not just intellectually believe but then not come and eat His flesh and drink His blood. “ He who comes to me will not hunger “ , if you don’t come to Jesus in the Eucharist, how can you not hunger.

If you believe Jesus, then you will come and eat His flesh and drink His blood as He says.
Then you will not hunger and thirst eternally.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

To eat Jesus flesh and drink His blood is to partake of His immortality.


“For as to what we say concerning the reality of Christ’s nature within us, unless we have been taught by Him, our words are foolish and impious. For He says Himself, My flesh is meat indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. He that eateth My flesh and drinketh My blood abideth in Me, and I in him. As to the verity of the flesh and blood there is no room left for doubt. For now both from the declaration of the Lord Himself and our own faith, it is verily flesh and verily blood. And these when eaten and drunk, bring it to pass that both we are in Christ and Christ in us. Is not this true? Yet they who affirm that Christ Jesus is not truly God are welcome to find it false. He therefore Himself is in us through the flesh and we in Him, whilst together with Him our own selves are in God.” Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, 8:14 (inter A.D. 356-359).

The assurance is if we actually eat Jesus flesh and drink His blood as He says. Not just intellectually believe but then not come and eat His flesh and drink His blood. “ He who comes to me will not hunger “ , if you don’t come to Jesus in the Eucharist, how can you not hunger.

If you believe Jesus, then you will come and eat His flesh and drink His blood as He says.
Then you will not hunger and thirst eternally.

again you need to read John 6.

To eat flesh and blood is to partake of the bread from heaven, which is to hear and believe the words.

It is the spirit who gives life. the words i speak are spirit and life.

again, Jesus promised ALL who eat this food which endures forever many things.

the eucharist does not promise anyone who partakes of it anything.. thats why they have to keep eating it. Because it does not endure forever.

 

[Cathode]

again you need to read John 6.

To eat flesh and blood is to partake of the bread from heaven, which is to hear and believe the words.

People don’t believe Jesus words. They don’t believe Jesus flesh is real food and blood is real drink, and thus they don’t come to Jesus in the Eucharist and eat His flesh and drink His blood.

If they truly believed, they would attend the Feast. But not believing means they have no garment of faith to attend this Feast where Jesus imparts His immortality.

It is the spirit who gives life. the words i speak are spirit and life.

again, Jesus promised ALL who eat this food which endures forever many things.

the eucharist does not promise anyone who partakes of it anything.. thats why they have to keep eating it. Because it does not endure forever.

Jesus is the new Manna come down from Heaven. Manna was a daily bread sent by God to sustain Israel till they reached the promised land. This was the prefigurement of Jesus who comes to us daily in The Eucharist.

“I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

Jesus flesh sacrificed for us, our Lamb of Sacrifice whose flesh we eat to receive His Life.

Only Jesus is Life, in receiving His Body and Blood we live eternally.

“ Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His Blood, you have no life in you “

The Eucharist is Jesus, He sustains us with His very Self as our daily bread.

 

[Cathode]

“Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.”

Many hear Jesus words, don’t believe them and don’t put them into practice.

They don’t believe His flesh is real food and blood is real drink.

They don’t eat His flesh and drink His blood, they excuse themselves from His feast where He sent His servants out to invite all.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

again you need to read John 6.


People don’t believe Jesus words. They don’t believe Jesus flesh is real food and blood is real drink, and thus they don’t come to Jesus in the Eucharist and eat His flesh and drink His blood.

If they truly believed, they would attend the Feast. But not believing means they have no garment of faith to attend this Feast where Jesus imparts His immortality.



Jesus is the new Manna come down from Heaven. Manna was a daily bread sent by God to sustain Israel till they reached the promised land. This was the prefigurement of Jesus who comes to us daily in The Eucharist.

“I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

Jesus flesh sacrificed for us, our Lamb of Sacrifice whose flesh we eat to receive His Life.

Only Jesus is Life, in receiving His Body and Blood we live eternally.

“ Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His Blood, you have no life in you “

The Eucharist is Jesus, He sustains us with His very Self as our daily bread.

again I will put an end to this

You are following catholic dogma, I have asked you multiple times now to read John 6. concerning Jesus conversation.

I have asked you to show me where anyone who takes the eucharist is assured they will recieve ALL Jesus promised to everyone who ate.

You have failed to do both.

this thread will be closed shortly. and this is off topic anyway I believe.

if your ever ready to actually study John 6. let me know

until then, I will trust what Jesus said about the food which endures forever. and not men who claim they are From God

 

[Cathode]

again I will put an end to this

You are following catholic dogma, I have asked you multiple times now to read John 6. concerning Jesus conversation.

I have asked you to show me where anyone who takes the eucharist is assured they will recieve ALL Jesus promised to everyone who ate.

You have failed to do both.

this thread will be closed shortly. and this is off topic anyway I believe.

if your ever ready to actually study John 6. let me know

until then, I will trust what Jesus said about the food which endures forever. and not men who claim they are From God

I quoted John 6, many times you saw Jesus own words, all you must do is believe them.

“Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. 9 So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.”

 

[Cathode]

again I will put an end to this

You are following catholic dogma, I have asked you multiple times now to read John 6. concerning Jesus conversation.

I have asked you to show me where anyone who takes the eucharist is assured they will recieve ALL Jesus promised to everyone who ate.

You have failed to do both.

this thread will be closed shortly. and this is off topic anyway I believe.

if your ever ready to actually study John 6. let me know

until then, I will trust what Jesus said about the food which endures forever. and not men who claim they are From God

“From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.”

Without faith, Jesus words are impossible to believe.

Today many walk away from Jesus in their hearts, not their feet.

The whole point of Jesus Sacrifice, is so that we eat the flesh and blood of that sacrifice to have Eternal life.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

“From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.”

Without faith, Jesus words are impossible to believe.

Today many walk away from Jesus in their hearts, not their feet.

The whole point of Jesus Sacrifice, is so that we eat the flesh and blood of that sacrifice to have Eternal life.

then why do you not have eternal life when you eat

do you eat a food that "endures forever" over and over. or just once. where one can eat like Jesus said, and not die.

and instead. like the fathers ate manna in the dessert. You continue to eat. yet still may die?

You may want to open another thread. this one is getting closed.. and will put an end where we can not respond

 

[Cathode]

then why do you not have eternal life when you eat

do you eat a food that "endures forever" over and over. or just once. where one can eat like Jesus said, and not die.

and instead. like the fathers ate manna in the dessert. You continue to eat. yet still may die?

You may want to open another thread. this one is getting closed.. and will put an end where we can not respond

The Eucharist is a daily bread that sustains us to resurrection and eternal life.

The Manna was a daily bread that only sustained to the promised land.

Jesus didn’t say, ‘ he who eats my flesh once ‘.

Jesus imparts His Life daily to us in the Eucharist sustaining us in and by His Love and Grace.

 

[Cathode]

In the Eucharist Jesus comes to us like a sweet innocent helpless infant who is overjoyed to see us and totally envelopes us with all His Love.
He fills our heart with all we need, His Love, Light, Goodness and Grace.

It is this Communion with Him that transforms us to be like Him.

No matter our sufferings and sorrows, Jesus shares it and because of Him we can bear all.

 

[rockytopva]

That’s what the Eucharist is.

Salvation in itself is as easy as... The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:8-9

1. Confess the Lord Jesus Christ
2. Believe in your heart that God has raised him from the deal

That's it! From there a believer should seek out a fellowship for the edifying of his faith. In which I believe can be Messianic, Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant. In which should stress the Godly life and to look for Christ's return...

It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. - Hebrews 9:27-28

 

[Cathode]

In the Eucharist we exchange hearts with Jesus.

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him. “

This is where all other things fall away and we enter into unity with Jesus.

This is a moment of eternity, a foretaste of Heaven.

Jesus Holiness, Love and Goodness fill our hearts and being and sustains us, through this very dark world.

Jesus holds us along the way.