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Featured The "Psalm 12:6-7 thingie" used by KJVOs is false.

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by robycop3, May 16, 2021.

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  1. rlvaughn

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    Somehow I overlooked this statement before. Once again you are making stuff up. I neither said nor suggested that man-made is better if it comes from a professor man. Makes no matter who says it -- some nutty professor or an old retired steelman. It is the content of what is said compared to the Bible that matters, and not who presents it. Man-made is man-made.
     
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    It is a necessary inference. God created Adam & Eve. He did not create anyone else. The first people to inhabit the earth with Adam & Eve were their children. Anyone born into this world was born to these people. They had no one else to marry. The only way you can get around this is to make up a false doctrine that God created other men and women for the sons and daughters of Adam & Eve to marry. You have asserted this man-made doctrine in the past, have you not? Do you still hold to it?
    Your doctrine is man-made, phony as a Ford Corvette & a Chevy Mustang, and I suppose it may also be a dead horse. I would be glad if you would change your unscriptural opinion about the sons & daughters of Adam & Eve. But ultimately, I am more interested in seeing you drop the false narrative that others hold man-made doctrines, while you always avoid all false, man-made doctrines.
     
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    Right, because I haven’t shared anything on it. :rolleyes: What it boils down to is what “evidence” you’ll accept. Which from all the topics I’ve seen you comment on are virtually none other than your own take on things.
    The point is that you want to tear down/destroy the faith of those who believe they have God’s words in a particular translation. What does that benefit you?
    Again, that also goes the other direction as well.
     
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    My response was to Roby and you missed what I was implying. It was about a why try to destroy the faith of those who believe in their translation.
    The are many promises that are for Christians by those who believe them. I was referring with that to the promise of divine preservation pertaining to the KJB.
    I probably could have worded the post more clearly.
    You’re definition of what is an error and what others consider them to be differ vastly on the subject.
    As I keep reading I keep coming across convos or discussions you’ve had with others across the internet as your name keeps popping up, so this isn’t an assumption.
     
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    You do not demonstrate that your assertion is correct. You do not present what you may assume and claim my definition to be.

    Perhaps I merely would apply consistently and justly the very same measures/standards that would be needed to claim renderings in present-day English Bibles to be errors in translation and apply them likewise to the KJV.

    I clearly have advocated that the exact same measures/standards should be applied justly to all Bible translations so do you suggest that others would not apply the same measures/standards justly?
     
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    No one had ever died that we know of when Cain murdered Abel. But God severely punished Cain for it. And God has abolished very few of His rules for all mankind, nor added very many since the beginning. He's EXPANDED existing ones, such as He did with incest, ending a common practice of half/siblings marrying, So He's evidently always had an anti-incest rule in place. I'll not believe Cain married his sister unless I'm shown unequivocal proof.

    NOW, MAY WE RETURN TO THE REGULARLY-SCHEDULED PROGRAM?
     
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    The Psalm 12:7 thingie is man-made.
     
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    Your statement to which I replied is clearly man-made. However, do not bother to admit that you misrepresented my saying that who said it was somehow important to whether we should listen to it or not, which I did not.
    More equivocation and deflection. You do not want proof, you only want to keep your Ford Corvette. Your example of Cain ultimately shows that God punished, but not with the punishment he later prescribed for murder. You say God always had an anti-incest rule in place, but that is just more of your opinion with no scriptural support. You can believe whatever you wish about Cain, but cannot support it with Scripture. In order to support your man-made doctrine that has no scriptural support, you are required to believe that God created extra people that he did not create.
    I am on my regularly-scheduled program, and you are free to get on with yours.
     
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    There are many things we simply don't know. We see the effects of incest in some of the royal families of Europe. The closer the relationship, the worse the birth defects of their offspring are. God calls it an abomination. It didn't go on for awhile & suddenly become abominable to Him.

    Now, again, until I'm shown UNEQUIVOCAL PROOF that Cain married a sister of his, I'll believe his wife came from somewhere else. You know my view on this & I know yours, & we simply disagree. Thus, I'm through discussing this, especially on this thread, which is about Psalm 12:6-7.
     
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    It doesn't benefit ME a bit, except to know I'm doing what God influenced me to do-work against a false doctrine. And, like it or not, believe it or not, the KJVO myth has been proven false. It's proven to have a Satanic origin. It's pretty obvious he invented it to cast doubt upon God's word & try to limit its spread & the understanding of it.

    And OF COURSE my posts are my take on things as I'm their author, same as yours are YOUR take. That's common sense!

    Not at all. Fighting a false doctrine of faith/worship is NOT Satan working against Satan.
     
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    Where else? God created only two people and you do not believe that?
    You have always been free to choose to not discuss it on this thread, and could have chosen to do so at any time. However, my posts are about something ingrained in your OP, which is your harangue about doctrines without any scriptural support. My immediate goal is not to change your mind (though that would be a plus), but to expose the fact that you are content to hold views without any scriptural support when they are your man-made views.
     
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    Wonder if we can get back on subject?

    Can anyone show us how Ps. 12:6-7 supports KJVO ?
     
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    Scripture clearly condemns incest, so I DO have Scriptural support for believing Cain's wife was not his sister. End of story.
     
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    Your man-made story will never end unless and until you find scriptural support for God creating someone outside the family of Adam & Eve for Cain to marry.
     
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    And YOURS won't unless you can provide proof that Cain's wife was his sister.
     
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    She would have been the only female available other then Eve at that time!
     
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    You don't really understand, do you? I am not trying to prove Cain's wife was his sister. I am proving you hold man-made doctrine without any scriptural support and won't admit it.
     
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    Far as WE know!
     
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    True, do you hold that God created more then just Adam and Eve at same time then?
     
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    Don't know; Scripture doesn't say.
     
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