Actually, refers to a literal Kingdom state upon this earth when Messianic King is enthroned upon his throne
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The Thousand Year Reign of Christ on the Earth
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Alan Dale Gross
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The Inherently Designed Structure of the Book of Revelation that God Divinely Reveals is that EACH OF SEVEN VISIONS ALL COVER THE PRECISELY SAME PERIOD AND SPAN OF TIME.
Each of those Seven Visions, cover the New Testament Age of Jesus' churches we are now in and this current Age we are now in began at the End of Jesus' First Advent after His Birth, Public Ministry, Death, Burial, and Resurrection, and then His Ascension. From Jesus' Ascension until Jesus' Second Advent, when He Returns to Earth, again, is the same Time Period that Each Vision, including John's First Vision on the Lord's Day, covers.
Each Vision's content reiterates and goes back over the Preceding Vision and GIVES Further, DEEPER REVELATION, if you will.
All Seven Visions OVERLAY ONE ANOTHER and they All Give MORE PROGRESSIVE REVELATION AS YOU GO FROM ONE VISION TO THE NEXT, starting over in Each One back to the Time of Jesus' Earthly Ministry and Ascension.
(Reading through Revelation, one chapter after the other, is not how God Designed it and that can only lead to utter chaos and entirely unintended gobbledygook and, of course, that is all that comes from misinterpreting the Book of Revelation, by trying to think it was ever meant to be read that way.)
Study Revelation this way to have a 100% Advantage to understand What God Wants You to Understand.
"The system of interpretation of the book of Revelation which seems most satisfactory to me...is that known as progressive parallelism, ably defended by William Hendriksen in More Than Conquerors, his commentary on Revelation.2
"According to this view, the book of Revelation consists of seven sections which run parallel to each other, each of which depicts the Lord's churches and the world from the time of Christ’s First Coming to the time of His Second Coming.
"The first of these seven sections is found in chapters 1-3. John sees the risen and glorified Christ walking in the midst of seven golden lampstands. In obedience to Christ’s command John now proceeds to write letters to each of the seven churches of Asia Minor.
"The vision of the glorified Christ together with the letters to the seven churches obviously form a unit. As we read these letters we are impressed with two things.
"First, there are references to events, people and places of the time when the book of Revelation was written.
"Second, the principles, commendations and warnings contained in these letters have value for the church of all time.
"These two observations, in fact, provide a clue for the interpretation of the entire book.
"Since the book of Revelation was addressed to the Lord's churches of the first century A.D., its message had reference to events occurring at that time and was therefore meaningful for the Christians of that day.
"But since the book was also intended for the Lord's churches through the ages, its message is still relevant for us today.
"The second of these seven sections is the vision of the seven seals found in chapters 4-7.
"John is caught up to heaven and sees God sitting on his radiant throne.
"He then sees the Lamb that had been slain taking the scroll sealed with seven seals from the hand of the one who was sitting on the throne.
"The various seals are broken, and various divine judgments on the world are described. In this vision we see the church suffering trial and persecution against the background of the victory of Christ.
"The third section, found in chapters 8-11, describes the seven trumpets of judgment. In this vision we see the church avenged, protected and victorious.
"The fourth section, chapters 12-14, begins with the vision of the woman giving birth to a son while the dragon waits to devour him as soon as he is born—an obvious reference to the birth of Christ.
"The rest of the section describes the continued opposition of the dragon (who stands for Satan) to the church.
"This section also introduces us to the two beasts who are the dragon’s helpers: the beast out of the sea and the beast out of the earth.
"The fifth section is found in chapters 15-16. It describes the seven bowls of wrath, thus depicting in a very graphic way the final visitation of God’s wrath on those who remain impenitent.
"The sixth section, chapters 17-19, describes the fall of Babylon and of the beasts. Babylon stands for the worldly city — the forces of secularism and godlessness which are in opposition to the kingdom of God.
"The end of chapter 19 depicts the fall and final punishment of the dragon’s two helpers: the beast out of the sea, and the false prophet, who appears to be identified with the beast out of the earth (see 16:13).
"The seventh section, chapters 20-22, narrates the doom of the dragon, thus completing the description of the overthrow of the enemies of Christ. In addition, it describes the final judgment, the final triumph of Christ and his church, and the renewed universe, here called the new heaven and the new earth.
"Note that though these seven sections are parallel to each other, they also reveal a certain amount of eschatological progress.
"The last section, for example, takes us further into the future than the other sections.
"Although the final judgment has already been announced in 1:7 and has been briefly described in 6:12-17, it is not set forth in full detail until we come to 20:11-15.
"Though the final joy of the redeemed in the life to come has been hinted at in 7:15-17, it is not until we reach chapter 21 that we find a detailed and elaborate description of the blessedness of life on the new earth (21:1-22:5).
"Hence this method of interpretation is called progressive parallelism.
"There is eschatological progression in these seven sections, not only regarding the individual sections but also regarding the book as a whole.
"If we grant that the book of Revelation depicts the struggle between Christ and his church on the one hand and the enemies of Christ and the church on the other, we may say that the first half of the book (chapters 1-11) describes the struggle on earth, picturing the church as it is persecuted by the world.
"The second half of the book, however (chapters 12-22), gives us the deeper spiritual background of this struggle, describing the persecution of the church by the dragon (Satan) and his helpers. In the light of this analysis we see how the last section of the book (chapters 20-22) falls into place.
"This last section describes the judgment which falls on Satan, and his final doom. Since Satan is the supreme opponent of Christ, it stands to reason that his doom should be narrated last."
More at: "Amillennialism: Intoduction and the Book of Revelation" by Anthony Hoekema
Yes?
The Inherently Designed Structure of the Book of Revelation that God Divinely Reveals is that EACH OF SEVEN VISIONS ALL COVER THE PRECISELY SAME PERIOD AND SPAN OF TIME.
Each of those Seven Visions, cover the New Testament Age of Jesus' churches we are now in and this current Age we are now in began at the End of Jesus' First Advent after His Birth, Public Ministry, Death, Burial, and Resurrection, and then His Ascension. From Jesus' Ascension until Jesus' Second Advent, when He Returns to Earth, again, is the same Time Period that Each Vision, including John's First Vision on the Lord's Day, covers.
Each Vision's content reiterates and goes back over the Preceding Vision and GIVES Further, DEEPER REVELATION, if you will.
All Seven Visions OVERLAY ONE ANOTHER and they All Give MORE PROGRESSIVE REVELATION AS YOU GO FROM ONE VISION TO THE NEXT, starting over in Each One back to the Time of Jesus' Earthly Ministry and Ascension.
(Reading through Revelation, one chapter after the other, is not how God Designed it and that can only lead to utter chaos and entirely unintended gobbledygook and, of course, that is all that comes from misinterpreting the Book of Revelation, by trying to think it was ever meant to be read that way.)
Study Revelation this way to have a 100% Advantage to understand What God Wants You to Understand.
"The system of interpretation of the book of Revelation which seems most satisfactory to me...is that known as progressive parallelism, ably defended by William Hendriksen in More Than Conquerors, his commentary on Revelation.2
"According to this view, the book of Revelation consists of seven sections which run parallel to each other, each of which depicts the Lord's churches and the world from the time of Christ’s First Coming to the time of His Second Coming.
"The first of these seven sections is found in chapters 1-3. John sees the risen and glorified Christ walking in the midst of seven golden lampstands. In obedience to Christ’s command John now proceeds to write letters to each of the seven churches of Asia Minor.
"The vision of the glorified Christ together with the letters to the seven churches obviously form a unit. As we read these letters we are impressed with two things.
"First, there are references to events, people and places of the time when the book of Revelation was written.
"Second, the principles, commendations and warnings contained in these letters have value for the church of all time.
"These two observations, in fact, provide a clue for the interpretation of the entire book.
"Since the book of Revelation was addressed to the Lord's churches of the first century A.D., its message had reference to events occurring at that time and was therefore meaningful for the Christians of that day.
"But since the book was also intended for the Lord's churches through the ages, its message is still relevant for us today.
"The second of these seven sections is the vision of the seven seals found in chapters 4-7.
"John is caught up to heaven and sees God sitting on his radiant throne.
"He then sees the Lamb that had been slain taking the scroll sealed with seven seals from the hand of the one who was sitting on the throne.
"The various seals are broken, and various divine judgments on the world are described. In this vision we see the church suffering trial and persecution against the background of the victory of Christ.
"The third section, found in chapters 8-11, describes the seven trumpets of judgment. In this vision we see the church avenged, protected and victorious.
"The fourth section, chapters 12-14, begins with the vision of the woman giving birth to a son while the dragon waits to devour him as soon as he is born—an obvious reference to the birth of Christ.
"The rest of the section describes the continued opposition of the dragon (who stands for Satan) to the church.
"This section also introduces us to the two beasts who are the dragon’s helpers: the beast out of the sea and the beast out of the earth.
"The fifth section is found in chapters 15-16. It describes the seven bowls of wrath, thus depicting in a very graphic way the final visitation of God’s wrath on those who remain impenitent.
"The sixth section, chapters 17-19, describes the fall of Babylon and of the beasts. Babylon stands for the worldly city — the forces of secularism and godlessness which are in opposition to the kingdom of God.
"The end of chapter 19 depicts the fall and final punishment of the dragon’s two helpers: the beast out of the sea, and the false prophet, who appears to be identified with the beast out of the earth (see 16:13).
"The seventh section, chapters 20-22, narrates the doom of the dragon, thus completing the description of the overthrow of the enemies of Christ. In addition, it describes the final judgment, the final triumph of Christ and his church, and the renewed universe, here called the new heaven and the new earth.
"Note that though these seven sections are parallel to each other, they also reveal a certain amount of eschatological progress.
"The last section, for example, takes us further into the future than the other sections.
"Although the final judgment has already been announced in 1:7 and has been briefly described in 6:12-17, it is not set forth in full detail until we come to 20:11-15.
"Though the final joy of the redeemed in the life to come has been hinted at in 7:15-17, it is not until we reach chapter 21 that we find a detailed and elaborate description of the blessedness of life on the new earth (21:1-22:5).
"Hence this method of interpretation is called progressive parallelism.
"There is eschatological progression in these seven sections, not only regarding the individual sections but also regarding the book as a whole.
"If we grant that the book of Revelation depicts the struggle between Christ and his church on the one hand and the enemies of Christ and the church on the other, we may say that the first half of the book (chapters 1-11) describes the struggle on earth, picturing the church as it is persecuted by the world.
"The second half of the book, however (chapters 12-22), gives us the deeper spiritual background of this struggle, describing the persecution of the church by the dragon (Satan) and his helpers. In the light of this analysis we see how the last section of the book (chapters 20-22) falls into place.
"This last section describes the judgment which falls on Satan, and his final doom. Since Satan is the supreme opponent of Christ, it stands to reason that his doom should be narrated last."
More at: "Amillennialism: Intoduction and the Book of Revelation" by Anthony Hoekema
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
Doesn't the Bible actually completely eliminate the "pre", "Mid", and "Post" interpretations just as plain as day, since they are each utterly dependent on "a thousand year reign" of Jesus Christ on Earth and God makes no mention of any "thousand year reign" of Jesus Christ on Earth.
He Does. God utterly eliminated those "pre", "Mid", and "Post" errors, for all to see right there before our eyes, in Revelation 20:4.
They are all misconceived, bogus, and null and void, wastes of anyone's and everyone's time, from their first word, until their ten billionth word, at their last they ever have to say. Every word about any of them is worthless and false, starting with their namesake misnomers they took upon themselves for errant Non-Biblical names, of "pre", "Mid", and "Post" anything's.
The very best Bible teachers never even bother mentioning that they exist. Why should they? I, for one, like to teach the Bible and just am perfectly content with skipping manmade ideas that aren't what the Bible teaches, WHICH IS WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO UNDERSTAND.
(Not a bunch of flesh that profits Zero.)
That's God Himself talking in the Bible about "a thousand year reign" and He doesn't say one Word in the Bible anywhere about " a thousand year reign" of Jesus Christ that will take place on Earth.
Do you know why?
Because there is never going to be anything that takes place in the future where Jesus Christ is on Earth Reigning for " a thousand years".
Man says, "oh, yeah there is".
Then, provided you care what God says, He Doesn't, but He says so much more, it'll keep you busy the rest of your life probing it's DEPTHS OF GRACIOUS BLESSINGS OF GOD'S TRUE REVELATION TO MANKIND and Unfold the New Testament and Old Testament AND OUR CURRENT AGE AND THE HISTORICAL FACT OF THE END OF TIME AS WE KNOW IT, WHEN JESUS RETURNS, LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE.
THAT WILL BE IT. THE GREAT CONSUMATION. JESUS SEPARATING THE SHEEP FROM THE GOATS, AS HE SAYS EVERY OTHER TIME HIS RETURN IS MENTIONED.
THAT MEANS: PREACH NOW!!!
THIS IS ALL THERE WILL EVER BE.
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
Not unless you see the word, "Hell", somewhere that I don't.
And Satan's "binding" for "a thousand years" does have another important quality mentioned, if you notice it.
It is that he "will deceive the nations no more until the thousand years be fulfilled". That's a big bit of information. In other words, nobody said Satan went away completely somewhere ( the Abyss), since he still is reaping havoc every day on Earth.
It says that he is no longer permitted or able to deceive the nations as a whole and keep them entirely in darkness, en masse, as in so many previous Ages.
Satan Bound the Thousand Years;
1 "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."
What messianic Age are you referring to?
Where is this one you are referring to, do you know right off?
And where it is talking about these things like this?
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Isaiah Zachariah for examples
All nations shall up unto Jerusalem to worship the Messianic King, has not happened as of yet, and there has been no resurrection as of yet, and Satan has never been bound yet, as in Messianic age shall be cast into Hell and bound, no more false teachers, false religions etc shall be found at that time upon earth
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
Is that supposed to be saying something
Those 2 ;prophets saw a coming Messianic age upon earth
canadyjd
Well-Known Member
The “pre”, “mid”, “post” refer to the timing of the rapture with relation to the great tribulation (as I understand it). The theology is separate from millennial reign theology.
I hold to post trib rapture, immediately followed by the great throne judgment and no millennial reign on earth.
Peace to you
I hold to post trib rapture, immediately followed by the great throne judgment and no millennial reign on earth.
Peace to you