The Unique distinctive of this board - Christian Evolutionism debates

[Meatros]

The atheists I wittiness to on other message boards and in my personal life all say that there is too much scientific evidence that disproves the Bible. And may I add these atheists aren’t stupid. They know the Bible like the back of their hand.

So apparently the atheists and the theists are interpreting the same scientific data differently.

Not really. You made a broad statement and applied it to a broad group. If someone thinks that Genesis is literal, then science does disprove it.

Strawman...knocked down...

 

[BobRyan]

All abuse of science - meant to turn IT against Genesis - has in fact - been debunked on this message board - many times over.

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Joshua -
P.S. A neighbor recently asked me which of the theories for refuting evolution we were taught in seminary. I looked at her with a very confused expression on my fact for a minute, then explained to her that no one I knew in seminary believed in a young earth and a literal interpretation of Genesis 1-11. It was her turn to look confused (she attends a very conservative church).

Here is the REAL benefit of this board. "SHOW" how capitulation to the myths of evolutionism - does NOT corrupt the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Why can we not have this discussion on this board - with the evolutionists being offended that they might have to defend their own position?

Why do they consider it "unfair" that they must exegete the text?

Why do they consider it "unfair" if they are asked to "believe the ACCOUNT of God's Word" as IT states IT is giving an "account" of the origins of life on this planet

"For IN SIX DAYS the Lord CREATED the heavens AND the Earth AND ALL that is IN them".

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Paul writes --
a) Evolution is true (as per innumberable scientific discoveries)

b) The bible is always true when properly interpreted (axiom)

therefore

The Bible is consistent with evolution when properly interpreted.

Classic fallacies of logic presented by the mythologies of evolutionism.

#1. Notice that in point a - the salient point is "assumed" not "proven".

#2. Notice that circular reasoning is then applied to get evolutionism to "fit".

#3. Notice that NO rational is given for HOW the Gospel could POSSIBLY be true - GIVEN that mankind DID NOT fall into sin from some perfect sinless state BUT INSTEAD -

"As little Adam sat on his cave floor bashing in his ration of monkey brains. Mommy hominid watched - looking on in approval. When SUDDENLY Adam had -A Bad Thought - and then God the Son would have to die for his sins or else burn him in hell fire".

Clearly - evolutionism makes a mockery of the Gospel BECAUSE it's "creator" is "Death, Starvation, Extermination, Carnage, blood-baths".

Such "a paradise" is the "essence" of Evolutionism's "process of creation".

But "of course" this is just another debunking of the myths of evolutionism that many evolutionists don't want to see "discussed".

And that is rather sad.

Bob

 

[Meatros]

Originally posted by BobRyan:
All abuse of science - meant to turn IT against Genesis - has in fact - been debunked on this message board - many times over.

Bob

Uh-huh..

Keep shaking your fist and pretending that what you say is true...

 

[Paul of Eugene]

Originally posted by BobRyan:

Classic fallacies of logic presented by the mythologies of evolutionism.

There is nothing fallacious anywhere in the logic. It is ironclad. There are only two points of possible contention, and those are the assumptions on which the argument is based. Given those assumptions, the logic is impeccable.

That's how all proof works, you know. Assumptions are granted, consequences worked out. No other way of doing proof exists.

#1. Notice that in point a - the salient point is "assumed" not "proven".

You will never see any "proof" anywhere without assumptions. That's the way proof works. This is only an observation, not a valid criticism.

Perhaps you would like to assert the assumption is false. Well, you can then point out where science has been done incorrectly, as many have attempted to do without success on this board. The science behind evolution is solid.

#2. Notice that circular reasoning is then applied to get evolutionism to "fit".

I deny that there is any circular reasoning anywhere in this syllogism.

#3. Notice that NO rational is given for HOW the Gospel could POSSIBLY be true - GIVEN that mankind DID NOT fall into sin from some perfect sinless state BUT INSTEAD -

"As little Adam sat on his cave floor bashing in his ration of monkey brains. Mommy hominid watched - looking on in approval. When SUDDENLY Adam had -A Bad Thought - and then God the Son would have to die for his sins or else burn him in hell fire".

Nobody I ever heard of proposed that scenario. A straw man fallacy.

Clearly - evolutionism makes a mockery of the Gospel BECAUSE it's "creator" is "Death, Starvation, Extermination, Carnage, blood-baths".

Such "a paradise" is the "essence" of Evolutionism's "process of creation".

I'm very sorry you don't like the fact the Tyronosaurus Rex killed and ate and died long before man came along on the scene. But I didn't invent that idea. That's what happened.

But "of course" this is just another debunking of the myths of evolutionism that many evolutionists don't want to see "discussed".

And that is rather sad.

OK BobRyan, you've been shown to have no concept of what proof really means, you've been shown to use straw men for arguments, you've been shown to have no concept of what a circular argument is, and you've certainly been shown to refuse to accept the findings of science.

This is not really a particular failing of your own. It is typical of the mind set of the creationist crowd in general. You are only following your crowd. Posting by reflex starts to look kind of silly after a while. Be more rigorous in your logic!