They Call Me Liberal ........

[Zaac]

Also continually asserts that voting for Romney is a vote for idolatry.

Just put Zaac in the killfile and forget about him.

Man I didn't ask you to respond to any of my posts, so shoo!:thumbsup:

If voting for a candidate who supports murdering babies is wrong, then voting for a candidate who supports worshiping a false god is equally wrong.

There's your dichotomy. Now start dancing around it.

 

[carpro]

Carpo, you have avoided my questions. So please answer now:

Now please answer my questions, if all government programs were eliminated would you:

1. Increase you giving at church so others could be helped?
2. Pay the medical bills for someone in need?
3. Pay the water bill for someone who cannot afford to pay that bill and their water will be shut off?

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They're just too stupid to bother with.:sleep:

 

[Zaac]

Carpo, you have avoided my questions. So please answer now:

Now please answer my questions, if all government programs were eliminated would you:

1. Increase you giving at church so others could be helped?
2. Pay the medical bills for someone in need?
3. Pay the water bill for someone who cannot afford to pay that bill and their water will be shut off?

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Again, excellent questions. Let's see what the responses are.

 

[Zaac]

They're just too stupid to bother with.:sleep:

Or they will expose more hypocrisy from the Church.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

True

Of course it is.

And the anticipated result of preaching Christ is that God will draw others unto Himself through your obedience. But when your own hypocrisy has cut off the platform upon which you were given to preach the Gospel, then what?

What hypocrisy ?

Sure am. That's why I asked the question that you seem to be dancing around answering.

It's s tupid question, and I'm not answering it. Our job is to preach the gospel. The Holy Spirit does the rest. Why don't you trust it ?

And what does that have to do with the question posed to you? Forget Olberman. You dance as well as Barishynikov.:laugh:

Preach the gospel.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I'd much rather support a Christian President and his bad economic policy than an unChristian President and his fantastic economic policy

Then you are a hack.

 

[targus]

I'd much rather support a Christian President and his bad economic policy than an unChristian President and his fantastic economic policy.

What has Obama ever said that indicates that he is a true Christian?

Every time that he has said anything about his faith I get the exact opposite impression.

Like when he called the Ressurection a "story".

 

[Zaac]

Of course it is.





What hypocrisy ?

The obvious hypocrisy that you're ignoring.

It's s tupid question, and I'm not answering it. Our job is to preach the gospel. The Holy Spirit does the rest. Why don't you trust it ?

It's a stupid question because answering it truthfully will expose the hypocrisy.

Preach the gospel.

Kinda hard to tell folks they need Jesus while supporting a candidate who says "apparently" doesn't.

So keep spouting about all things Romney and see just how truly ineffective your witness will be.

This is no different than evangelicals running around acting like homosexual sex is the worst sin of them all.

The sin du jour on this board seems to be Obama supporting abortion. And y'all hypocritically think Romney's worshiping a false god pales in comparison.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Again, excellent questions. Let's see what the responses are.

Well, we saw one answer and it was no answer...just an avoidance so as not to show where he really stands on helping others. But his answer gives a pretty clear indication of his stance and it is not ....................

 

[Zaac]

What has Obama ever said that indicates that he is a true Christian?

Couldn't the same be said from a lost world about those who claim to be Christians but who are supporting a candidate who does not worship Christ?

Obama says he is a Christian but seems to have a myriad of other things that he feels are important enough to not align himself with Christ.

But likewise those who are supporting Romney are doing the same.

CTB does not support abortion but he supports a candidate who does.

The masses here , I'm assuming do not support worshiping false gods, but they are supporting a candidate who does.

What's the difference?

Every time that he has said anything about his faith I get the exact opposite impression.

Like when he called the Ressurection a "story".

It's very hard for me to believe the man is a Christian and I pray that God saves him. But he wields the same type of deception as the devil. Pretending to be one thing while plotting a course of destruction behind the scenes.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Couldn't the same be said from a lost world about those who claim to be Christians but who are supporting a candidate who does not worship Christ?

Obama says he is a Christian but seems to have a myriad of other things that he feels are important enough to not align himself with Christ.

Zaac, I could not help seeing T's question as it was a quote in your reply.

Originally Posted by targus View Post
What has Obama ever said that indicates that he is a true Christian?

I never read his answers or his posts for reasons I gave a year or so ago. But in answer to his question go to the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PPZ7PT4Xj4

Obama clearly states he is a Christian by choice.

 

[targus]

Zaac, tell Crabby that if he wants me to look at his video then he will have to tell me himself. :laugh:

What is this?

Middle School? :laugh:

For someone who is on Crabby's ignore list I sure do get a lot of his attention. :laugh:

 

[Zaac]

Zaac, I could not help seeing T's question as it was a quote in your reply.



I never read his answers or his posts for reasons I gave a year or so ago. But in answer to his question go to the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PPZ7PT4Xj4

Obama clearly states he is a Christian by choice.

CTB, I've heard him say that before. But for me personally, when he is constantly going against the things of Christ while seemingly being on a vendetta against Christianity, it comes across as something contrived behind the scenes. That's just me though.

It's like having someone abuse you again and again and again and then saying they love you afterwards. You stop believing it because of their actions.

But I would likewise put those who say they want to preach about a Jesus who saves out one side of their necks while advocating support of a man who worships a false god out the other side of their necks as equally contrived.

Neither one really leaves himself with a platform to preach Christ, imo.

It would be different if folks were saying I don't advocate what Obama/ Romney believes, but I believe this one is a better choice economically for the country instead of one said pretending to take the moral high ground and calling out one's pro-abortion stance while dismissing the other's worshiping a false god.

 

[carpro]

Or they will expose more hypocrisy from the Church.

:laugh: I'm not Catholic. They have plenty of hypocrisy on their own. They don't need my help.

You got any dumb questions you'd like to ask, so I can ignore them, too.

 

[Zaac]

Zaac, tell Crabby that if he wants me to look at his video then he will have to tell me himself. :laugh:

What is this?

Middle School? :laugh:

For someone who is on Crabby's ignore list I sure do get a lot of his attention. :laugh:

CTB, targus wants you to tell him to look at the video yourself.

 

[carpro]

Obama clearly states he is a Christian by choice.

Everything about his life says he's a liar.

 

[Zaac]

:laugh: I'm not Catholic. They have plenty of hypocrisy on their own. They don't need my help.

You got any dumb questions you'd like to ask, so I can ignore them, too.

I didn't say you were Catholic.

And frankly, I don't care if you ignore my direct questions. You INDIRECTLY answer them more than you realize.:laugh:

 

[mandym]

Everything about his life says he's a liar.

Obama would rather climb a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.

 

[Crabtownboy]

CTB, targus wants you to tell him to look at the video yourself.

He knows where he can look at it. His reply is simply an example of his sophomoric responses ... and those are usually his best. I'll not go into others as they are too negative. I tried discussing with him for several years, but gave it up as he was never rational or honest and never answered questions but insisted that I and others ask questions. He really has no intention of ever entering a rational or polite discussion.

Zaac you said

CTB, I've heard him say that before. But for me personally, when he is constantly going against the things of Christ while seemingly being on a vendetta against Christianity, it comes across as something contrived behind the scenes. That's just me though.

I understand what you are saying and respect your opinion.

For me personally I am very slow to caste doubt on anyone who says they are a Christian, even if I disagree with them are what I consider important issues. Why? Because as a mountain preacher said when I was a kid, "Ain't none of us got it all right yet. We all still got much to learn and we all know more than we do." I am so glad that it is not my responsibility to determine who is and who is not a Christian.

What I did by posting that link was show T that Obama has clearly said he is a Christian. Whether we agree with him that he is or is not has nothing to do with T's question. T ask that it be shown that Obama has said he is a Christian. In the video he does that.

Zaac, keep preaching brother.

 

[mandym]

He knows where he can look at it. His reply is simply an example of his sophomoric responses ... and those are usually his best. I'll not go into others as they are too negative. I tried discussing with him for several years, but gave it up as he was never rational or honest and never answered questions but insisted that I and others ask questions. He really has no intention of ever entering a rational or polite discussion.

Amazing! You just described yourself.