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[TexasSky]

How many people feel that all things considered, the overall attitude of the Baptist Board during disagreements is shameful?

[This thread is being closed until the Moderators and Administrators can review it and determine whether or not it should be re-opened. It seems to go right along with the pity party that we have been dealing with all day.]

[ September 30, 2005, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: Bible-boy ]

 

[Gold Dragon]

I don't see the benefit of having a poll like this.

 

[RightFromWrong]

I Do !!!!!

 

[Michaelt]

Originally posted by Gold Dragon:
I don't see the benefit of having a poll like this.

I have to agree with you on this one GD.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I see people saying anything they want, and crying when they get rebutted. Mostly new folks. People are way too thin-skinned, and "martyr's complex" is the best description I've ever heard.

People are allowed to challenge posts. And every challenge is not a personal attack.

 

[Johnv]

The question of the OP is a valid question. Part of living the life of a Christian is recognizing one's shortcomings, not making excuses for them. Only by recognizing and accepting one's shortcomings can one grow as a Christian.

One of the shortcomings of this board has been a sharing of shameful and often unchristlike attitudes. What's remotely wrong, inappropriate, or unchristian about recognizing that fact?

 

[Thankful]

Personally, I think we should be appreciative of this Board that is provided so generously by the webmaster and we should thank the mods and adms for the work that they do. We as members really have no right to criticize the actions of the Webmaster.

If one doesn't like this Board, no one is making them stay here and post.

In my opinion, this poll should be deleted.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

In 100% agreement, Thankful. IMHO, this is the best Christian debate site on the web.

 

[Petrel]

When I first joined the board I was rather awestruck by the amount of petty meanness that I saw going on. I've been told by people I know "in real life" that I can be abrasive when I argue because I act so sure that I'm right and the other person is wrong. I didn't realize quite how obnoxious that was until I came here! I guess what caused me to notice this is that while I have a tendency to claim intellectual superiority, there are people on this board who tend to claim spiritual superiority, which I consider to be even more rude (and self-defeating, if you think about it). Because of being shown how obnoxious this type of attitude is I've been working on how I talk to the people who disagree with me so that I can both support my argument and also respect my opponent.

Fortunately this negative first impression of this board has been ameliorated by some of the other people that I've met here whom I like and respect, although I may not agree with them.

There are some arguments on the board that will always be present (Arminianism vs. Calvinism, Dispensationalism vs. Covenant Theology, Pre-trib vs. every other version, young-earth creation vs. theistic evolution, KJVO vs. multiple versions, and all of the arguments on the politics board!) However, I think that we ought to be able to disagree on these things without being angry and condescending towards each other, and be able to leave these differences behind when it comes to posting on unrelated threads.

The other source of arguments is personality issues, which tend to be more problematic! In some of these cases I have been tempted to say things that I shouldn't, but most of the time I've been able to hit the delete key and take a few breaths before hitting Add Reply. I feel that in most of these cases saying what I really think wouldn't do any good and would just cause anger and disruption, and there is really no need to respond except my temper--and I can smush that!

Finally, I want to say thanks to the moderators. I think that they do a good job and are unobstrusive. I certainly hope that we aren't causing needless work for them. We are all adults here and ideally should be able to moderate ourselves.

 

[SAMPLEWOW]

I think we should always be checking up on ourselves to see if we are doing everything to the GLORY of God

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by SAMPLEWOW:
I think we should always be checking up on ourselves to see if we are doing everything to the GLORY of God

Amen, Brother SampleWow -- Preach it!

 

[Barnabas H.]

Originally posted by TexasSky: How many people feel that all things considered, the overall attitude of the Baptist Board during disagreements is shameful?

The attitude is shameful and often un Christ like.

Only in America can one bash the host. The question is not about the overall attitude of posters but rather what can I do to make this place more Christlike? By the way, thanks for the constructive criticism.

Yours in Christ, Barnabas (your friendly BB Administrator)

 

[Marcia]

Originally posted by Thankful:
Personally, I think we should be appreciative of this Board that is provided so generously by the webmaster and we should thank the mods and adms for the work that they do. We as members really have no right to criticize the actions of the Webmaster.

If one doesn't like this Board, no one is making them stay here and post.

In my opinion, this poll should be deleted.

To those who don't like the way the BB is run: Why complain if you don't like how the BB is run? Just find another Board you like better.

I think the moderators do a pretty good job considering how much they have to monitor and deal with. We all have our faults and no one is perfect.

 

[Dr. Bob]

Thankful said this poll should be deleted and I would personally agree. That said, it does not "whine" or "condemn" the Webmaster et al nor violate a rule, so it stands. It stands open in mute contrast to those who talk about the moderators as "heavy-handed". If we were, this would have a LOCK!!

I do agree that each of us should think 3-4 times BEFORE we post, and then we should be sure to deal with ISSUES and not PERSONALITIES.

Sadly, I often am called in (as Administrator) when the situation is like an irreconcilable divorce. "He said/She said", petty and mean-spirited. And more and more of that going on from people who have been around here a long time and should know better . . .

 

[Bunyon]

If you are going to participate in the politics section and some other potentially fiesty ones, you have to be prepared to be rebutted and even told you Idea has no merit. If you are confident in what you believe, it wont bother you. If you are not confident or if you think you are perfect, it will bother you. It seems to me that some of the people who get the most upset are the same people that will make a disparaging comment to another person as opposed to just dealing with the other fellows argument. posisition. This is not the sanctuary of a church, it is a discussion board.

If you want perfect PC and harmoney, start a thread called "The perfect harmoney board where now one can disagree". The hight of Christ likness is when you can totally disagree with your fellow Christian, and still love them in the morning, as it were.

 

[delly]

Great comments, everyone.
I'm about this board like I am about the U.S. If you don't love it, leave it.

There are many things said that I don't like and I have argued with people, to no avail, that think I'm going to hell because I divorced my abusive, alcoholic husband, but I finally decided just to ignore those folks. It does no good to argue and just makes me angry, so I leave it alone and go on to another thread where I can join in without being judged so terribly.

None of us has the right to judge others, considering we are all sinners and God sees no difference in our sins.

I think the moderators are doing a wonderful job and I want to thank the webmaster for letting all us nutty folks use this site for free.
Y'all are the best.

 

[El_Guero]

Unfortunately,

There are those on this board that sometimes do not reflect Christ.

It is not that different from our local churches. Sometimes, you have little idea what the person beside you is really like.

However, I was surprised that more responded that the overall board was more often not Christlike than those that responded the board was generally Christlike.

Personally, I wonder if this could be from a combination of pessimism and individual styles of argumentation?

 

[Gib]

And If the Baptist Board is not for you, simply return it and they'll send you a full refund.

 

[Marcia]

Originally posted by El_Guero:

However, I was surprised that more responded that the overall board was more often not Christlike than those that responded the board was generally Christlike.

I think this is because many of those who think the Board is fine didn't vote and don't want to participate in what they see as an unfair or mean spirited or petty poll. I, for one, did not vote and I think the Board is fine. But I don't want to give the poll credibility by voting. Hope that makes sense.

The kind of question in the OP is the kind that attracts those who have a beef with the Board, so more negative votes can be expected. This is why these kind of polls are not all that accurate.

 

[El_Guero]

That makes sence.