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Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
James said...
As for the poll...the fact that people are not allowed to speak their mind is indicative of the need for the poll.

How can you say that ? How can you possibly say that you are not allowed to speak your mind ?

And if that is an attack, then I'm Mickey Mouse.

Because someone wanted the poll closed probably? Did I say your question was an attack? No I did not. It was a valid question...which is the way you should have conducted yourself in every post to me and we never would have had a single argument. You can take that to the bank. BTW...I am about 6', 280...so I'm not too scared.

 

[Bunyon]

"The way to take back the churches is for Christians to stand firm, and not be afraid of "offending others"....

"That's a hateful and cold hearted attitude for a minister of God to take"

"You are a very hateful man"

"I TRULY believe you are the most hateful man I have ever met in my life."


The words of Texas Sky

 

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Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
[QB] We should be allowed to say we disagree, without having to worry about childish tantrums. I think people want to be provacative, just to make themselves look like victims. (Actually, very few).

I will be the first to admit I say some harsh things when I see posts with absolutely no truth in them. I will also admit that I hit the refresh button often, to see what comes back. But folks should expect it from me. I've been here several years, doing the same thing. The fact is, outrageous stuff gets posted here, and if folks can't handle the responses they get, they shouldn't be here.

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Oh I have much respect. For the people who deserve it. For the ones who attack me unprovoked, or the ones who gang up on me, or the ones who just use their power like a dictator...make your own conclusion. You said "
"But folks should expect it from me. I've been here several years" Nice excuse. People should expect that when I am attacked unprovoked I fight back like a mad dog. Leave me alone, and I leave you alone.

You said "if folks can't handle the responses they get, they shouldn't be here". That includes you and everyone else who likes to attack me unprovoked and then whine when I fight back. I have tonnes of posts in my history where someone disagreed with me and I was fine with that. They were smart enough not to attack me unprovoked.

As for this statement Curtis: "We should be allowed to say we disagree, without having to worry about childish tantrums. I think people want to be provacative, just to make themselves look like victims. (Actually, very few)."

You are right. I shouldn't have to worry that I will be attacked unprovoked especially when I think I am having a decent discussion with someone. So you are exactly right...more than you know.

As to what "you think" well I would disagree. Should I say what I was horrified by today? Oh wait...I do all the time.

But hey...I've learned there's better ways to handle certain kinds of people...

 

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"Also, face to face confrontations don't allow the time between statements, to come up with a real good comeback."

Thou speakest for thyself.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

James, are you interested in stopping this war ? I have asked a moderator if they can arrange a three way meeting between us, are you interested in that ?

 

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Of course I am interested. I thought it was over when we were last talking like civil human beings. But then you started attacking me again. Sure I am.

 

[Bunyon]

The words of Texas Sky. You decide.

"The way to take back the churches is for Christians to stand firm, and not be afraid of "offending others"....

"That's a hateful and cold hearted attitude for a minister of God to take"

"You are a very hateful man"

"I TRULY believe you are the most hateful man I have ever met in my life."

"I'm ashamed to know some of you"


The words of Texas Sky. You decide.

 

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*sigh*

 

[TexasSky]

Interesting reaction to the poll.

I never said the board was administered badly nor did I say "moderators are bad", yet, that seems to be how some of you read the fact that the question regarding attitude was asked.

Also interesting that instead of simply saying, "We are considering closing the thread while we consider its merits," an insult was thrown in about "self pity." For the record Bob, I don't feel any self pity at all regarding this.

As to other things. I have never written a word on this board that I would hesitate to say to the individual face to face in front of a full congregation - nor have I ever written anything that I worry about "facing Christ" with.

Am I guilty of getting angry? Yes.

Does the fact that I am as guilty as someone else mean its okay? No.

Does, "Its okay, we can be hateful, its just a debate forum," mesh with God's word?

Do Christians ever have a time when we are not supposed to live up to God's standards?

Why is "taking a pulse" and finding out who feels the attitude is right or wrong so threatening and anger inducing to so many? As the poll says, the answer is a simple yes or no. You are worried about the attitude or you aren't. If the majority is worried, maybe it isn't "just a few people feeling self-pity." If the majority is not worried, maybe it is. What's wrong with finding out a few base reactions in that regard?

 

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If everyone and I mean EVERYONE followed this things would be so much calmer...and I would follow it as well:

"Civility will be the norm, not "attack". Focus on the issue not the individual.
Debate is encouraged! This is not just touchy-feely fellowship, but a place where every facet of an argument should be held aloft for all to see, understand, and respond to." -Dr.Bob

 

[Brice]

I must say I do see the attitude on this board to be troublesome right now, but in my short time on this board I've seen the love of Christ in many people (including the mods). That being said as a christian why on earth would you say love it or leave it? That is a horrible attitude to take and not christian like in any facet. That attitude assumes perfection and allows no room for accountability. Well that's my two cents. God bless.

 

[Bible-boy]

Originally posted by TexasSky:
Interesting reaction to the poll.

I never said the board was administered badly nor did I say "moderators are bad", yet, that seems to be how some of you read the fact that the question regarding attitude was asked.

Also interesting that instead of simply saying, "We are considering closing the thread while we consider its merits," an insult was thrown in about "self pity." For the record Bob, I don't feel any self pity at all regarding this.

As to other things. I have never written a word on this board that I would hesitate to say to the individual face to face in front of a full congregation - nor have I ever written anything that I worry about "facing Christ" with.

Am I guilty of getting angry? Yes.

Does the fact that I am as guilty as someone else mean its okay? No.

Does, "Its okay, we can be hateful, its just a debate forum," mesh with God's word?

Do Christians ever have a time when we are not supposed to live up to God's standards?

Why is "taking a pulse" and finding out who feels the attitude is right or wrong so threatening and anger inducing to so many? As the poll says, the answer is a simple yes or no. You are worried about the attitude or you aren't. If the majority is worried, maybe it isn't "just a few people feeling self-pity." If the majority is not worried, maybe it is. What's wrong with finding out a few base reactions in that regard?

Hello Texas,

I closed your poll/thread earlier after spending hours dealing with a bunch of negative threads and posts, in which a very small number of posters were simply bashing their fellow posters and Moderators/Administrators. I noticed your poll/thread and saw the very real possibility that it could be used as a springboard for more of the same kind of bashing to occur again. I did note that it would be closed long enough for the Moderators and Administrators to determine if it should be allowed to continue. We re-opened it in your favor. I did not accuse you of engaging in or having a "pity party." However, I said that it seems to be leading to such. I am sorry that you took offense at my choice of words and I ask for you to forgive me over that issue.

Yours in Christ,

Boble-Boy
Forum Moderator

 

[Bunyon]

"Does, "Its okay, we can be hateful, its just a debate forum," mesh with God's word?"-------------------------------------------------------------

The problem is Pastor Larry was not being hateful, but just because his world veiw on certain things is not the same as yours, you accused him of being hateful. That is a problem. No honest person wants to be called hateful just because they see it different, and are willing to say so.

 

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"...a bunch of negative threads and posts, in which a very small number of posters were simply bashing their fellow posters and Moderators/Administrators."

I respectfully disagree. I am not in the mood to explain myself for the gazillionth time though. If that is your conclusion then I am not making myself clear. I don't even care to make myself clear anymore...the attempt would be futile.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Now James, and listen very close, I only reported ONE post of yours, that called me a liar. I said you accused me of adding scripture. You said that was a lie. I have the PM where you said it. Are you prepared for me to show that in our discussion ?

I can't talk via PM with you, and this needs to stay public, I think. I have had nothing to hide. I am not ashamed of the things I have said to you. But this will probably be very uncomfortable for both of us. Are you prepared to do this ?

As for tonite, I'm gonna watch some TV with the wife. I'll check in the A.M.

 

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yeah show me the post where I said that. I don't remember it. I think I remember calling you a liar but I thought it was for something else. anyway...I never claimed to be perfect. It's the things you and others get away with that ticks me off. I reported something...but it was ignored...probably because it was me reporting. We all know what low worth is put on me here...one moderator even said it...and implied that I had no credibility and I was a liar.

I have nothing to hide either. I'll do it. Anyone gangs up on me or attacks me...and the discussion is over.

 

[Bible-boy]

Originally posted by King James:
... People should expect that when I am attacked unprovoked I fight back like a mad dog....

Hello KingJames,

The statement quoted above speaks directly to the heart of the problems that you have experienced while posting here on BB. According to the member agreement you are not allowed to (in your words) "fight back like a mad dog."

If you feel that a poster has made a personal attack against you. You should not leap to your own defense and begin making personal attacks back at the person. You should click on the Moderator Alert button and explain your concern to us in that Alert. Then give us time to respond (it could take hours because we are not always on-line and reading every post on the BB). If your concern is not addressed send a second Moderator Alert explaining your concern and that it is a second request. Then, if all else fails simply walk away from the thread without making any personal attacks against the other poster and do not start other threads in an attempt to draw that poster into a heated discussion of the old issue.

Yours in Christ,

Bible-Boy,
Forum Moderator

 

[buckster75]

the people here prove that we are all human, even christians, I have seen the worst and I have seen the best.

 

[here now]

Bible-Boy says:
You should click on the Moderator Alert button and explain your concern to us in that Alert.


Hello Bible-Boy,
What or where is the moderator alert button? When I first joined there was a report post button for each post but now there is nothing like that.

Here Now

 

[jshurley04]

Can't we all grow up and get along like Christians?

Oops, my bad, seems like we were.