Not laws. Edicts. I don't think you can show me any properly passed laws about masks, except laws prohibiting adults from wearing masks.
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Cleveland Clinic Statement on Previous COVID-19 Infection Research
Cleveland Clinic Statement on Previous COVID-19 Infection Research – Cleveland Clinic Newsroom
This is still a new virus, and more research is needed. It is important to keep in mind that this study was conducted in a population that was younger and healthier than the general population. In addition, we do not know how long the immune system will protect itself against re-infection after COVID-19. It is safe to receive the COVID-19 vaccine even if you have previously tested positive, and we recommend all those who are eligible receive it.”
I don't think Federal Govt should decide my health care. Pro choice. Keep your laws off my body. All that crap that supposedly protects abortion, should protect me from vaccines and masks. My body. My choice.
canadyjd
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You left out the sentence that stated zero, that is correct, zero (that means not even one) re-infection for those who were unvaccinated but had been infected with the virus and recovered.
That is 100% immunity, which is better than the 95% immunity given by the vaccine and no additional risks of complications no matter how small.
Let’s hope those numbers hold up over time.
peace to you
Centrist
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I used to go off of the freedom of choice idea, which I still support...however, I feel that people are not using their heads, Ok, if you don't want to wear a mask, that's fine. If I do that is my choice. As for the vax, I took a chance and got the Moderna. I'm still alive. As for the people that think I can get others sick because I had the vax, whatever. No proof that I know of.
I was refusing to cooperate with the mask mandate until I read the history of the Flu of 1917. But now there is a lot of confusion because the CDC says it's a novel virus, but the NIH says it's the H1N1. Sorry, can't have both. It's one or the other.
I was refusing to cooperate with the mask mandate until I read the history of the Flu of 1917. But now there is a lot of confusion because the CDC says it's a novel virus, but the NIH says it's the H1N1. Sorry, can't have both. It's one or the other.
I agree. We should make our own decisions.
We can do things (like avoid tap water), but try finding food that has not been genetically altered.
The government is already involved in your health.
I am glad they are not making the decision about vaccinations for us, though. I agree with you here.
Does that go for seat belts and helmets ?
Yep.
My basic beleif is that govts job is to protect us from others - not from ourselves.
If the govt really wants to protect us - they would make booze and cancer stick illegal.
Agreed, but they can go way too far in the area of "protecting us from others."
Disagree - "can go too far"
They DO go way too far!
Report: Vaccinated Are Nearly 6 Times More Likely to Die From COVID Variant
Yet they tell you the opposite. What is the truth? And don’t you think you’re entitled to it?
Yet they tell you the opposite. What is the truth? And don’t you think you’re entitled to it?
What I posted was the bottom-line recommendation of the Cleveland Clinic. You seem to think you can i9nterpret the results of that in-house study better than they can. I'll go with the Cleveland Clinic's conclusion not yours.
canadyjd
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That’s fine. No problem.
However, I can think for myself and I can see clearly when the “bottom line” is contradictory and based on politics, not science.
Will the Cleveland Clinic be held accountable for the unnecessary complications people endure, including our children? Will anyone in the government be held accountable for their decisions during this pandemic?
How many deaths attributed to Governor's policies that resulted in deaths? How many deaths caused by Fauci first saying “don’t wear a mask”, then saying “do wear a mask”, then admitting he lied about wearing masks so there would be plenty of masks for first responders and then changing his story again saying he changed his mind on masks based on the science.
peace to you
A lot of deaths we're caused by Trump's bungling our response to the challenge. There's a good reason why we've had the most deaths of any country. That reason was completely ineffective "leadership" by the previous administration.
When you say "most deaths" do you mean raw numbers or per 100 Thousand?
Yet then they tell you the opposite.
Vaccines seem to work well against Covid variants. It's also complicated
It depends on the "they" people choose to believe (ultimately people are their own "experts" believing whoever "tickles their ears").
canadyjd
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Trump response:
1. Early shut down of travel from China and other countries Opposed by Dems//Fauci/media. Saved many lives
2. Production of ventilators. Saved many lives
3. Fast tract production of vaccine. Laughed at by media, criticized by Dems who loudly stated it wouldn’t be safe since Trump was for it.
4. Fast tract production of protective gear, hospitals etc, medicines and treatments, all efforts of which were undermined by Dems and media who would rather see people die than Trump get credit for his response.
Trump saved many lives,
Dems cost many lives as people are still hesitant to take the vaccine since Dems laid foundation it wouldn’t be safe.
Thank God Trump had foresight and courage to lead us through this pandemic, saving many lives while Dems, like Cuomo, literally killed the elderly by forcing this infection into nursing homes, and Dems laid the foundation to not trust the vaccine.
peace to you