Time of Creation

[percho]

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Gen 2:3

Do these two words have the same meaning in Hebrew?

Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Is that created or made?

From 2 Cor 4:6 because God who said, Out of darkness light, to shine,

What darkness? What light? Is that from 2 Cor 4 speaking of what is spoken of in Gen 1:2.3? Is darkness and light from Gen 1:2,3 and 2 Cor 4:6 in the same context as in 1 John 1:5 that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all?

Again what darkness, what light?

Gen 1:2 What is God about to do, on the earth and why does it need to be done?

Where does the foundation of the World [Kosmos] System, Configuration come in? Words with the concept of ordered alinement.

Is God about bring about the means for the Son of God to be manifested? Manifested as what in what? Why?

Is this why? 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Was the earth without form and void and darkness upon the face of the deep because of the works of the devil?

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

BTW I am asking questions. What are the answers?

 

[JD731]

Genesis 2:1
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

From beginning to end

There was one heaven in day one. After the division there were three heavens from the one heaven. One in three and three in one.

This can mean only one thing. There was nothing before day one except God. God is Jehovah. He has no need of anything.

This is the only evidence we need for a young earth. 6,000 years old presently.

This is my take based on the words. The following is in the ten commandments .

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

[canadyjd]

Exodus 20:8-11….

"Science" so called, is a system that is developed by flawed, fallible, sinful humans, by people who are mostly not believers in the One True God of the Bible, and who are not guided by God the Holy Spirit….

This is not accurate. Many of the “founders” of the modern scientific method (observe, document, theory, test, record results, alter theory, repeat) we believers that stated God is a God of order and has given the intelligence to understand the principles by which He governs existence.

While that may be rare today, it was common a few hundred years ago.

Peace to you

 

[percho]

Genesis 2:1
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

From beginning to end

There was one heaven in day one. After the division there were three heavens from the one heaven. One in three and three in onGod created the heavens and the earth?e.

This can mean only one thing. There was nothing before day one except God. God is Jehovah. He has no need of anything.

This is the only evidence we need for a young earth. 6,000 years old presently.

This is my take based on the words. The following is in the ten commandments .

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Jesus answered, 'Are there not twelve hours in the day? if any one may walk in the day, he doth not stumble, because the light of this world he doth see; John 11:9

and God saith, 'Let light be;' and light is. And God seeth the light, that good, and God separateth between the light and the darkness, and God calleth to the light 'Day,' and to the darkness He hath called 'Night;' and there is an evening, and there is a morning -- day one. Gen 1:3-5

I wonder if God spoke out of darkness light to shine, twelve hours after God created the heavens and the earth?

 

[JD731]

Jesus answered, 'Are there not twelve hours in the day? if any one may walk in the day, he doth not stumble, because the light of this world he doth see; John 11:9

and God saith, 'Let light be;' and light is. And God seeth the light, that good, and God separateth between the light and the darkness, and God calleth to the light 'Day,' and to the darkness He hath called 'Night;' and there is an evening, and there is a morning -- day one. Gen 1:3-5

I wonder if God spoke out of darkness light to shine, twelve hours after God created the heavens and the earth?

Amen! Every thing God does in the natural is typical of spiritual truth. Of course there is darkness before there is light in this world.

 

[Van]

So many experts, so little reason. We do not know the time of creation. It is just fine and dandy to have our opinions, but to say my opinion is the only way to understand scripture is beyond reason and well within arrogance.

 

[JD731]

Every subject that is addressed in the scriptures is important with God and is instruction for those who desires to know him. We know the time of creation if we are among those who believes the words of God. If you are one of those who do not know then it is likely that you will be very surprised at the end when the world is on fire. We are told about that as well and we likewise do not have to guess about when that will happen either.

It amazes me when people talk and write as if the words of God are just mystical mumbo jumbo. With some here, the worst thing one can do is to believe the words of God actually gives information that can be processed by the logical and reasonable mind..

 

[37818]

It amazes me when people talk and write as if the words of God are just mystical mumbo jumbo.

And you do not always present God's written word with specificity?

 

[JD731]

And you do not present God's written word without specificity?

I do. The creation is 6000 years old, or mighty close, as men count time. It is six days old as God reckons time. I am not guessing about that. It is written in scriptures by Peter.

 

[37818]

. . . The creation is 6000 years old, . . .

You do not know that. And supposing that to be true. How would you account the distances measuring over millions of light years away?

 

[37818]

You do not know that. And supposing that to be true. How would you account the distances measuring over millions of light years away?

Cepheid Variable Stars

 

[JD731]

You do not know that. And supposing that to be true. How would you account the distances measuring over millions of light years away?

actually I do know that. And to answer your question, the same way Adam and Eve were created with appearance of age and maturity. As well as all other things that were made.

 

[Deacon]

actually I do know that. And to answer your question, the same way Adam and Eve were created with appearance of age and maturity. As well as all other things that were made.

Appearance of Age is one argument that can’t be argued against successfully…

… the chief weakness being that it could be argued that we were only created last week.​

Rob

 

[37818]

. . . the same way Adam and Eve were created with appearance of age and maturity.

No it cannot be the same way. Adam and Eve are biological growth in a short amount of time. Stars are a physical distance. It would be a different explanation.

 

[JD731]

No it cannot be the same way. Adam and Eve are biological growth in a short amount of time. Stars are a physical distance. It would be a different explanation.

Creation was a process. It began on day #1 as the heaven and the earth. Heaven was singular. The division of the one heaven into three heavens took place during the six creation days. The first three words in the scriptures are "in the beginning." That is just too simple to get wrong. The context for the six days is creation of existing things.

Ps 115:15 Ye are blessed of the Lord which made heaven and earth.
16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

 

[JD731]

Appearance of Age is one argument that can’t be argued against successfully…

… the chief weakness being that it could be argued that we were only created last week.​

Rob

We were generated Rob

 

[37818]

Creation was a process. It began on day #1 as the heaven and the earth. Heaven was singular.

I believe day one began Genesis 1:3.

 

[JD731]

I believe day one began Genesis 1:3.

Do you know the function of a conjunction?

Thirty of the thirty one verses in chapter 1 begins with one.

Then in chapter two we have this.


Genesis 2:1-3
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. .


Genesis 2:4
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

God says he counts a thousand years as a day and a day as a thousand years. If you do not accept that you will struggle to understand him. The heaven and the earth were created in the beginning of day one, he says.

 

[MrW]

Matthew is Joseph’s genealogy.

Luke is Mary’s genealogy.

By Joseph, the Lord Jesus had legal right to the throne. By Mary, He had physical lineage to claim the throne.

 

[37818]

God says he counts a thousand years as a day and a day as a thousand years.

2 Peter 3:8, . . . But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. . . .

John 6:44, . . . No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6, . . . Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. . . .