I like.
Now let's consider some scripture.
when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. From Matt 19:28
When that takes place will there be humans of flesh and blood, having children? Will people still die? Is the the kingdom of or the kingdom of Christ sitting on the throne of David? Consider
1 Cor 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. --- Consider
then -- the end, when he may deliver up the reign to God, even the Father, when he may have made useless all rule, and all authority and power -- for it behoveth him to reign till he may have put all the enemies under his feet -- the last enemy is done away -- death;
This implies death will be taking place while Christ is ruling and at some point death will be done away and the kingdom {reign} will be delivered up to God even the Father. At this time corruption will have put on incorruption.
Your thoughts, please,
I doubt you will ever get an Amil to agree there is a 3 part order to Paul's point in 1 Corinthians 15. They probably won't even accept it as 1,000 years until those future 1,000 years are over. They will be skeptical for 1,000 years probably as punishment.
One point Paul made that many keep changing to resurrection wrongly though is being made alive. Being made alive is not about a resurrection at all especially if one is not physically dead.
The other point is that Paul never stated 2,000 years between Christ the firstfruits, and Christ at His coming, so why would Paul mention, another 1,000 years until the end? Paul was not setting dates, but Paul was giving an order to when all would be made alive.
The only resurrection happened at the Cross, when those in Abraham's bosom were resurrected with eternal life to now enjoy Paradise. Since the Cross, for the last 1993 years, being made alive is an ongoing phenomenon, once a redeemed soul leaves Adam's dead corruptible flesh, to enter God's permanent incorruptible physical body in Paradise. That is not a resurrection, because the second birth already makes us alive. That is a translation from death to life.
The rapture is not a resurrection theoretically, but is also a translation out of death to life. There are no dead people living in Adam's dead corruptible flesh in the Millennium. That is the whole point of it being the Day of the Lord.
When the dead stand before the GWT it is not a resurrection. They are still the dead. Metaphorically they are dumped out of Death, and sheol, not resurrected. But if they do experience a resurrection, it is to eternal life, and they will not be tossed into the LOF. But this event happens outside of creation. Only the GWT remains and the LOF. To them, that judgment may last years, who knows? It certainly will not effect the immediate realization of those already made alive, between one creation and the next. Those alive either on the earth or in heaven will not even notice the change between the old reality and the new reality. I am not sure why any one would place those already made alive at that event in Revelation 20:11-15.
They certainly don't understand the order as given by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15. The OT redeemed were made alive as the firstfruits (plural), in Christ at the Cross. All are being made alive constantly, because Paul points out the living can never proceed those who have physically died. At the Second Coming, those physically alive on the earth will be made alive, so it is not about being physically resurrected from the dust. It is about being made alive out of Adam's physical body.
But the last thing made alive and presented to God is creation itself. Yes, that creation could be changed instantly at the Second Coming, and will be after all the mess is cleaned up, but there are still events between the Second Coming and even the Day of the Lord that may or may not happen. And Paul literally gives more thought about the time between the Second Coming and the end, than between the Cross and the Second Coming.
Yes, Jesus is reigning now, but will reign on earth after the Second Coming as well. That is why Amil will constantly deny Paul's order as given. They deny that Jesus changes the geographical structure of the ME and literally the entire earth at the Second Coming. They deny Jesus sits on a throne in a Temple in Jerusalem after the Second Coming. They deny it is the temple and throne given to Satan 42 months after the Second Coming. Even dispensationalists will deny that as they have the wrong event as the Second Coming, but that is a totally different argument.
The rapture and Second Coming are described in the 5th and 6th Seal. They are not seperate events. They happen rather quickly and decisively. In a twinkling of an eye. Yet the church glorified will be forever burned into the memories of those on earth. Then during the Trumpets and Thunders, Jesus will sit in judgment removing billions of souls from the earth, that is the final harvest. Matthew 25 and Matthew 13 are the Trumpet and Thunder harvest. When the 7th Trumpet sounds all nations will have been made subject to Jesus, in preparation for the winepress of God's wrath. The only humans left will end up dead in that winepress. Then the Day of the Lord can start with the firstfruits of the final harvest.
Not sure why people accept the 12 disciples were firstfruits from the start of Jesus' earthly ministry soon after His baptism years before the Cross, as firstfruits of the NT church, that was to come. Then they cannot see that the 144k are firstfruits at the Second Coming years before the 7th Trumpet declares Jesus as King of the earth, even though Jesus has to gather the full final harvest out of billions as the Second Coming ministry as King.
The first coming was for His death and our salvation. The Second Coming will be for Adam's death, and Jesus' reign over sons of God redeemed from the earth. Adam had 6 days of sin and death. God reserves the 7th Day as a day of rest from sin and the punishment placed on Adam. The earth will be subdued for a thousand years under God's conditions, not Adam's.
