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To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant

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Pastor Larry

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Weren't President Clinton's circumstances "trying?" This is hypocritical.
President Clinton was the president. He wasn't the daughter of a candidate. That is a huge difference.
 

go2church

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Somehow I bet the conversation would be different if Obama's daughter was the one that was pregnant.

She is running for vice president, unfortunately there is no privacy for her or her family. Remember Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, the Bush daughters? It's seems so unfair, but it is reality. I guess we know why Powell didn't want to run, the family doesn't seem to get a fair chance to grow up and make all the mistakes young people make without some talking head add some critical comment.
 

annsni

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BaptistBeliever said:
Well, I'll put it in context. President Clinton was impeached for having an affair. John Edwards was strongly criticized by the radical right for having an affair. It would have been appropriate to let Bill and Hillary and John and his wife work things out on their own. Well, that didn't happen. Now the Republican VP candidate's 17 year old daughter is having an illegitimate child. Does this say anything about the way she was brought up? Maybe and maybe not but there's no way to keep it out of the campaign. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

President Clinton - did it himself
John Edwards - did it himself
Sarah Palin - it was her DAUGHTER. It's a different story.
 

carpro

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LadyEagle said:
If I remember correctly, Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for adultery. So it's apples and oranges.

Perfect recall in this case.
 

KenH

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go2church said:
Somehow I bet the conversation would be different if Obama's daughter was the one that was pregnant.

Absolutely. The social conservatives would be in full throat.
 

Pastor Larry

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Somehow I bet the conversation would be different if Obama's daughter was the one that was pregnant.
Somehow I doubt it. You would still have the radicals complaining about it, and you would still have the sane people saying it's off limits. You would have people bringing it up and then complaining that others are making a political issue of it. You would have people saying that the parents are bad parents. You would have others saying that people make their own choices. In the end, it would all be the same. And it should still be off limits.

Remember Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, the Bush daughters?
Yes, they were off limits too.
 

carpro

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go2church said:
Somehow I bet the conversation would be different if Obama's daughter was the one that was pregnant.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...;)

but then , it's doubtful Obama's daughter will ever be pregnant for long.

They'd kill the baby before it showed.
 

Bible-boy

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Hey that's not fair. BHO explained that if one of his daughters made a mistake he would not want them punished with a child. ;)
 

LadyEagle

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carpro said:
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...;)

but then , it's doubtful Obama's daughter will ever be pregnant for long.

They'd kill the baby before it showed.

Yep, you got it. :tear:
 

JerryL

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Yep, you got it. :tear:
Is this the only issue you people care about? What other interests do you have in this election? The Republicans have done so much on abortion, not. There is more to this election than abortion, especially when it's just lip service they offer. Ignorance at it's hieght, is what most of the political threads here are full of. The Republicans do very little either about abortion.
 
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donnA

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My interests are biblical interests, abortion and gay marriage. Taxes, and money in my pocket don't bother me as a christian, but murder and doing away with marriage between one man and one woman as god created it does bother me, becasue obviouly it bothers God, or He wouldn't put it in scripture. So really, it's a matter of viewing the world through the influence of scripture, or the influence of the world and their ungodliness.
 

JerryL

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donnA said:
My interests are biblical interests, abortion and gay marriage. Taxes, and money in my pocket don't bother me as a christian, but murder and doing away with marriage between one man and one woman as god created it does bother me, becasue obviouly it bothers God, or He wouldn't put it in scripture. So really, it's a matter of viewing the world through the influence of scripture, or the influence of the world and their ungodliness.
I quess you didn't read the part about lip service. It's politics, they are SAYING what you want to hear and doing nothing else. This is where the ignorance comes into play in the voting.
 
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rbell

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Well, I'll put it in context. President Clinton was impeached for having an affair. John Edwards was strongly criticized by the radical right for having an affair. It would have been appropriate to let Bill and Hillary and John and his wife work things out on their own. Well, that didn't happen. Now the Republican VP candidate's 17 year old daughter is having an illegitimate child. Does this say anything about the way she was brought up? Maybe and maybe not but there's no way to keep it out of the campaign. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

So, BB....does that mean that since some people violate privacy of some democrats (wrong to do), that it's OK for other people to do the same to republicans' kids (also wrong to do)?

You've made a few errors in your post:
  1. "The end justifies the means" or "an eye for an eye" isn't an acceptable justification for the behavior of some...on either "side" of the aisle.
  2. As has been said...A candidate violating his/her wedding vows is not the same as going after a candidate's child who engages in premarital sex. One directly impugns said candidate's honesty; the other does not.
  3. Factually...the impeachment was not for the affair, but for lying under oath. To be honest, I thought much of the proceedings with the Clinton's mess was a waste of time. But your facts here were not correct.
  4. The invective "radical right"--I believe in marriage, and I believe in electing people to office that don't lie. Does that make me "radical?" I realize that there are some on here who name-call a bunch...but does that make it right to do so? I wish these labels would go away...on both sides.
 

donnA

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JerryL said:
I quess you didn't read the part about lip service. It's politics, they are SAYING what you want to hear and doing nothing else. This is where the ignorance comes into play in the voting.
Ignorace is people who ignore scripture, to pad their wallets. Look at voting records, Obama votes for murdering children.
 

carpro

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JerryL said:
Is this the only issue you people care about? What other interests do you have in this election? The Republicans have done so much on abortion, not. There is more to this election than abortion, especially when it's just lip service they offer. Ignorance at it's hieght, is what most of the political threads here are full of. The Republicans do very little either about abortion.

Is this the only issue you care about?

There is more to this election than abortion.

Republicans may do very little about abortion, but democrats do a great deal. They promote it day and night.

So far I haven't noticed that you, personally , have concerns on any issue
except for being concerned about what Conservative Christians are concerned about.

Is that because of ignorance, apathy, or lack of true religious persuasion?
 

Debby in Philly

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My first thoughts were "What if this were a daughter of Obama or Biden? She would probably have had it killed, and the Dems would be applauding her for her "choice!" "
 

carpro

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Debby in Philly said:
My first thoughts were "What if this were a daughter of Obama or Biden? She would probably have had it killed, and the Dems would be applauding her for her "choice!" "

No doubt. :tear:
 

just-want-peace

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donnA said:
My interests are biblical interests, abortion and gay marriage. Taxes, and money in my pocket don't bother me as a christian, but murder and doing away with marriage between one man and one woman as god created it does bother me, becasue obviouly it bothers God, or He wouldn't put it in scripture. So really, it's a matter of viewing the world through the influence of scripture, or the influence of the world and their ungodliness.
Slam dunk gal, slam dunk!!!!!

It does make one wonder just exactly what the spiritual health is of so many posters.

--abortion and gay marriage--
These points are so clear in His word, that I'm amazed at the controversy within the supposed Christian ranks.

Taxes, and money--
Strictly personal concerns, but biblical principles DO apply. So desiring a "tax & spend" vs limited taxes etc can be disagreed on with no biblical restrictions (within legal & ethical limits of course) that condemn one view or the other.

The moral issues are another story though, as in the first quote re: abortion & homos - (I refuse to desecrate the once valid word "GAY")
 

JerryL

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donnA said:
My interests are biblical interests, abortion and gay marriage. Taxes, and money in my pocket don't bother me as a christian, but murder and doing away with marriage between one man and one woman as god created it does bother me, becasue obviouly it bothers God, or He wouldn't put it in scripture. So really, it's a matter of viewing the world through the influence of scripture, or the influence of the world and their ungodliness.
They should, your tax dollars are supporting Planned Parenthood and abortion clinics with Bush.
 
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