Top ten reasons to vote Democrat

[Covenanter]

Tim Keller has considered advice -

What should the role of Christians in politics be? More people than ever are asking that question. Christians cannot pretend they can transcend politics and simply “preach the Gospel.” Those who avoid all political discussions and engagement are essentially casting a vote for the social status quo. American churches in the early 19th century that did not speak out against slavery because that was what we would now call “getting political” were actually supporting slavery by doing so. To not be political is to be political.

 

[Covenanter]

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We, the undersigned, are crying out in unison with all people of conscience and compassion for the ICC to use its momentous authority to establish and preserve peace and justice throughout the world, most urgently for the oppressed and besieged people of Palestine. We, therefore, implore you to institute a full investigation in relation to the preliminary inquiry opened in 2015.1

 

[OnlyaSinner]

I get your point, I really do. But it is somewhat of a straw man. Democrats don't seem to be running on anything.

The things I'm seeing Democrats running on here in Minnesota are "fairness", "education", "quality health care"--in other words nebulous terms meant to appeal to emotions. Oh, and reminding people that the GOP opponent supported Trump.

So basically the Dems are running on emotional word generalizations and against Trump.

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Pretty much the same here in Maine, though sometimes with a messiah complex - "I'll fix the mess in Washington." (Or Augusta, depending on which race is referenced.) The 2nd District race drew eight-figure spending 2 years ago and is on the way to exceed that by election day - 1st District demographics are solidly blue. The governor's race is partially a plebiscite on the outgoing governor, a rough-cut version of Trump. And the obnoxious political ads are driving the regular commercials into hiding.

 

[atpollard]

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I'll pass, thank you.

I have enough problems to concentrate on fixing here at home without looking to fix other nation's problems.

Palestinians should stop shooting rockets and mortars at Israel.
Israel should stop bombing Palestine.
Egypt and Saudi Arabia should open their borders so peaceful Palestinian Arabs can work and trade with other peaceful Arab nations.

With respect to Israel and Palestine ... "Good fences make good neighbors" ... but it is their fence to build and not cross, not ours.

We need to stop Drug Smugglers and Human Traffickers from crossing the US-Mexican Border with impunity. That is our issue to deal with. The US and Mexico need to stop the flow of guns, drugs and money to the Cartels to make life better for the people both North and South of that border.

 

[Wingman68]

I have a personal dilemma.

Here in Florida, the Republucan governor and Legislature sold us on a lottery to add money to Education and immediately cut the General Fund for education by the exact same amount that the Lottery brought it ... thus lying to the people, cheating education out of additional funding they were promised and allowing for more personal benefits to themselves (like a pay raise). Yet we held our nose and continued to support the Republican Party because what the Democrats proposed was worse.

Then our most recent Republican Governor has stopped providing Lottery funds to schools completely and has simply reduced funding by still maintaining the lower levels from the General fund as well. Now schools are struggling to get approval for a bond initiative (kicking the tax down the road) in order to meet budgets. In addition, this same Republican Governor helped revise the laws related to pain drugs so that my wife on full disability with a degenerative spinal condition, cannot get the drugs she needs to deal with her chronic pain.

My dilemma is that this worst Governor ever, is the Republican candidate for US Senate from Florida. I cannot hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils this time. I cannot support a man whose actions have directly harmed my family and send him to Washington with a mandate to engage in 6 more years of hurting families and the working class and helping himself and the 1%.

If the Republican Party insists on being the party of the 1%, then I hope they have enough 1 percenters to win the elections. However, I have reached the point where my Party has an OBLIBATION to offer a candidate that I can vote for and still sleep at night. It is no longer enough to simply vote against the Democratic candidate.

So yesterday, I cast my first vote for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter. If the Republicans loose control of the Senate because of Florida, they have only themselves and their out of touch political machine to blame.

If how you vote is nobody’s business........Why did you post this?

 

[atpollard]

If how you vote is nobody’s business........Why did you post this?

I have a right to share how I vote or not to share how I vote.

No one has the right to tell me how I voted and why. The "nobody's business" remark was in response to an effort to turn an appeal to logic and fact into a personal attack on me.

I am not a Democrat. I lean towards true Libertarian (minimal government interference in all things). I object to the greed and excess and rampant corruption in the Republican Party. I am appalled by the immorality that has become the platform of the modern Democratic Party (and long for a return to a true Southern Democrat). I am weary of the sound byte politics that avoids all real issues and elects demagogues based on divisive 'non-issues'.

Most of all, I resent the implication that my Savior is either a Democrat or a Republican and that the 'Christianity' of anyone can be judged according to affiliation with either corrupt, worldly political machine.

So I push back on a topic that pretends to ask "Why vote Democrat?" but is really a "No true Scotsman" argument claiming that any 'real Christian' would vote Republican ... no matter what!

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Here is an opportunity to convince me that I am completely wrong.
The CORNERSTONE of the Republican Party (what they both claim and actually do) is:

1. Reduce Capital Gains Tax
2. Make Taxes less progressive (lower the top rate and reduce welfare)
3. Reduce regulation on Business

Show me where any of these cornerstones of the Republican Party are mandated or supported in scripture and you will convince me that a 'true Christian' will vote Republican because Republicans are doing God's business.

 

[Covenanter]

From over the Atlantic, both parties seem totally unsuited for government - are there no realistic alternative parties? Parties that have a concern for people, rather than politics & increased riches for the rich, & no concern for the poor?

 

[Wingman68]

From over the Atlantic, both parties seem totally unsuited for government - are there no realistic alternative parties? Parties that have a concern for people, rather than politics & increased riches for the rich, & no concern for the poor?

From over the Atlantic things don’t look that special to us when we see what’s playing out over there, that’s why we love our President. We don’t love the party, we love the man who’s showing the party how to lead us from the dark precipice of the New World Order.

We love Tommy Robinson too, who we see getting predictably vilified.
Thanks for your words of advice though, the touchy/feely is a dead giveaway that we ‘need’ progressivism/socialism/communism. It moves ‘forward’ (the slogan of European Marxists, which was then incorporated into the Obama campaign in ‘08) in that order. Where is your country at right now in your opinion?

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

From over the Atlantic, both parties seem totally unsuited for government - are there no realistic alternative parties? Parties that have a concern for people, rather than politics & increased riches for the rich, & no concern for the poor?

Your observation seems rather strange coming from someone in a country still saddled by the European Union and ever shrinking rights with Islam and socialism vying for the privilege of completely destroying you. How far back does your stated vision of us go?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

From over the Atlantic things don’t look that special to us when we see what’s playing out over there, that’s why we love our President. We don’t love the party, we love the man who’s showing the party how to lead us from the dark precipice of the New World Order.

We love Tommy Robinson too, who we see getting predictably vilified.
Thanks for your words of advice though, the touchy/feely is a dead giveaway that we ‘need’ progressivism/socialism/communism. It moves ‘forward’ (the slogan of European Marxists, which was then incorporated into the Obama campaign in ‘08) in that order. Where is your country at right now in your opinion?

Of course there is approximately 60% of the country that can’t stand Trump and would like to see him get lost so don’t believe all the crap ya read from trumpeters. Nor do we give a flying fart about Tommy Robinson or any domestic problems you’re having. We have our hands full with this voted in atavism.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

From over the Atlantic, both parties seem totally unsuited for government - are there no realistic alternative parties? Parties that have a concern for people, rather than politics & increased riches for the rich, & no concern for the poor?

Apparently not although there is a move away from both established political parties and hopefully they will be reduced in size ( to where they diminished in both political power and credibility.)

 

[atpollard]

Of course there is approximately 60% of the country that can’t stand Trump and would like to see him get lost so don’t believe all the crap ya read from trumpeters. Nor do we give a flying fart about Tommy Robinson or any domestic problems you’re having. We have our hands full with this voted in atavism.

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) disapprove."

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) disapprove."

I don’t trust Rasmussen

 

[Wingman68]

I don’t trust Rasmussen

And 80% of people here don’t care who you don’t trust. If you can just make stuff up, I’ll do the same.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Ask me if I care

 

[Adonia]

I have a personal dilemma.

Here in Florida, the Republucan governor and Legislature sold us on a lottery to add money to Education and immediately cut the General Fund for education by the exact same amount that the Lottery brought it ... thus lying to the people, cheating education out of additional funding they were promised and allowing for more personal benefits to themselves (like a pay raise). Yet we held our nose and continued to support the Republican Party because what the Democrats proposed was worse.

Then our most recent Republican Governor has stopped providing Lottery funds to schools completely and has simply reduced funding by still maintaining the lower levels from the General fund as well. Now schools are struggling to get approval for a bond initiative (kicking the tax down the road) in order to meet budgets. In addition, this same Republican Governor helped revise the laws related to pain drugs so that my wife on full disability with a degenerative spinal condition, cannot get the drugs she needs to deal with her chronic pain.

My dilemma is that this worst Governor ever, is the Republican candidate for US Senate from Florida. I cannot hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils this time. I cannot support a man whose actions have directly harmed my family and send him to Washington with a mandate to engage in 6 more years of hurting families and the working class and helping himself and the 1%.

If the Republican Party insists on being the party of the 1%, then I hope they have enough 1 percenters to win the elections. However, I have reached the point where my Party has an OBLIBATION to offer a candidate that I can vote for and still sleep at night. It is no longer enough to simply vote against the Democratic candidate.

So yesterday, I cast my first vote for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter. If the Republicans loose control of the Senate because of Florida, they have only themselves and their out of touch political machine to blame.

Mr. Gillum will kill the golden goose that is Florida. He will add more taxes that will deter businesses from coming here; he will most likely add an income tax on people's wages; he will most likely make the whole state a haven for illegals. (He is already on record not wanting to work with ICE). The guy is a dangerous leftist who will not be good for Florida in any way. I proudly voted against him.

Governor Scott is a good leader whose policies has brought many businesses to the state. I drive up and down the highways and see new business construction all the time. I was also very impressed with the way he has handled the natural disasters that have happened in the last few years. Senator Nelson on the other hand has been in Washington way too long and it 's time he comes home to Florida for a well deserved retirement.

 

[atpollard]

I proudly voted against him.

While I, too, did not support Gillum because of his policy positions and past performance ... I have reached the point in my life where it is no longer enough to be proud to vote AGAINST someone; I want to be proud to have voted FOR someone as well. Fortunately, DeSantis appears to be a candidate that one can be proud to vote for.

While I cannot strongly disagree with anything you said about Scott, his policies as Governor directly harmed my family. It is a simple reality that some conservatives have children in school and his reduced funding to local schools directly and adversely impacted my daughter. It is a simple reality that some conservatives have family members that suffer with chronic pain who were adversely impacted by his drug policy that has made alternative pain killers unavailable to my wife who suffers from the double curse of a degenerative spinal condition and an allergy to the entire morphine family of pain killers.

If I owned one of those large businesses that are doing better than ever under Scott, I might be inclined to vote for him in spite of the harm he has done because it was the greater good for my family. I do not own a business. For me and my house, education and health care come higher on the priority list than tax cuts for businesses. So I voted to send Nelson back to Washington and Scott home to his family where he can do no more harm to my family.

 

[atpollard]

I don’t trust Rasmussen

Gallup (2018 Oct 15-21)
Approve = 44
Disapprove = 50

 

[Wingman68]

Hillary Clinton on Friday, talking about two black democrats, corrected the interviewer, ‘That was Eric Holder, I know they all look alike.’
Yuck, yuck, Hillary, if Trump said it, no matter the context you would have heard about it 24/7, with calls for resignation. Did anyone hear about it?
During this interview she said she would like to be President, but was waiting to see what happens in the mids. She isn’t trusting polls anymore I guess.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Gallup (2018 Oct 15-21)
Approve = 44
Disapprove = 50

They also said in 2016 that Trump would loose.