Trump’s Incoherent Syria Policy Is About To Be Tested

[steaver]

This time should have been enough. If it wasn't we should just get out of there and let the rest of the world do what they wish and allow more to die. We either stand for what this country says they believe, which is that everyone deserves freedom or we walk away from a chance where a leader has clearly violated international war crime laws and is committing genocide and build a wall around us.

Pick the America you want to live in. I prefer to not give up and to help where we are needed. Unfortunately, we have overreached over the last 14 years now and our image is damaged. We are unable to help those that are truly in need due to awful politics and draining moral. It is sad.



I try not to accept this but it gets harder with each day.

I wouldn't include Obama in "overreach", he certainly did nothing to stop any Syrian aggression upon his own people. Remember, God gave us Obama for eight years, so God did not want us to stop Assad then, maybe God wants him out now, like He had Bush go in and take out Hussein. We must view the events of this world through the scriptures and what God has declared will be. We should be in awe of what God is doing and it should drive us to witness for Christ and save souls from the fire!

 

[steaver]

We Christians, of all people, should be viewing world events through the Providence of God and His declarations of what shall be.

Perfect example,

Trump announces that the USA will let the Syrian people handle their own affairs when it comes to their own President, if he should stay or go.

God allows Satan to move Assad to use chemicals to murder hundreds of his own people. This provokes the heart of Trump who just said he was not going to get involved. Now Trump is involved because God wanted Trump involved. Let's continue to see at what level God wants Trump to be involved in this matter. Pay attention to what God is doing with the leaders of this world, do not get tunnel vision and only see the actors!!

 

[InTheLight]

We Christians, of all people, should be viewing world events through the Providence of God and His declarations of what shall be.

Perfect example,

Trump announces that the USA will let the Syrian people handle their own affairs when it comes to their own President, if he should stay or go.

God allows Satan to move Assad to use chemicals to murder hundreds of his own people. This provokes the heart of Trump who just said he was not going to get involved. Now Trump is involved because God wanted Trump involved. Let's continue to see at what level God wants Trump to be involved in this matter. Pay attention to what God is doing with the leaders of this world, do not get tunnel vision and only see the actors!!

What a confusing mish-mash of theology of God's sovereignty, man's free will, and Satan's powers. Using this as a template I can make anything that happens in the world look like God is on the side of Trump and/or the USA.

 

[Yeshua1]

Donald Trump’s comments about Syria during a joint press conference today with King Abdullah of Jordan gave us no insight into the Trump administration’s policy toward Syria. That assumes, of course, that it has one.

But it did give us a potentially alarming glimpse into the haphazard way policy is formed in Trumpland.

And the actions he takes or declines to take in response to the latest Assad atrocity will tell us a lot about whether Trump is willing to take lock horns with Russia when they are on different sides of a serious foreign policy dispute.

Recent statements coming out of the Trump administration strongly suggested that the United States had softened its “Assad must go” policy. Secretary of State Tillerson said last week that “the longer-term status of President Assad will be decided by the Syrian people.”

On the same day that Tillerson made that statement, UN Ambassador Nikki Haley said, “our priority is no longer to sit there and focus on getting Assad out.” Haley sounded the same theme on one of the Sunday talk shows, saying that Assad “is not going away.”

If these statements reflected the direction of the Trump administration’s policy, it appears that pictures coming out of Syria have caused Trump to change it:

“That was a horrible, horrible thing. And I’ve been watching it and seeing it, and it doesn’t get any worse than that. And I have that flexibility. And it’s very very possible, and I will tell you, it’s already happened, that my attitude towards Syria and Assad have changed very much.”

Trump’s Incoherent Syria Policy Is About To Be Tested | The Huffington Post

Trump did something that Obama never managed to do in 8 years, lead as the commander in chief!

 

[Yeshua1]

And the previous administration had a coherent Syria Policy?

Yes, keep on allowing isis to become stronger and larger!

 

[just-want-peace]

What a confusing mish-mash of theology of God's sovereignty, man's free will, and Satan's powers. Using this as a template I can make anything that happens in the world look like God is on the side of Trump and/or the USA.

What mish-mash?? God is absolutely in charge, man does have free will (limited, however), and satan does have power (also limited). There is no question that the mid-east will be nothing but a cauldren of horrors toward the end, and He uses nations to accomplish His ends - so ------!!

The story of Job, and OT judgements are witness to these principles, so why question God's choices - permissive or providential - today??

 

[steaver]

What a confusing mish-mash of theology of God's sovereignty, man's free will, and Satan's powers. Using this as a template I can make anything that happens in the world look like God is on the side of Trump and/or the USA.

And how does this make God on the side of the USA or Trump? God has a plan and uses man to accomplish His purposes, you should know this.

 

[Calminian]

I loved hearing my President speak of his compassion for "beautiful babies." I believe his first responsibility is the citizens of the United States, but that doesn't prevent a world leader from having compassion on all of humanity. Country-first does not mean country-only.

BTW, there are liberal pastors all over the country that have been decrying country-first politics, claiming it's unloving toward other countries. I wonder if they'll back Trump on this.

 

[steaver]

Did you hear the left wing loonies on MSNBC saying Trump and Putin planned the gas attack and the retaliation to make Trump look good?

 

[Calminian]

Did you hear the left wing loonies on MSNBC saying Trump and Putin planned the gas attack and the retaliation to make Trump look good?

It's heinous, but there's a side of me that's glad they're showing their true colors.

 

[Yeshua1]

It's heinous, but there's a side of me that's glad they're showing their true colors.

Darkness always reacts crazy when light hits them!

 

[th1bill]

What a confusing mish-mash of theology of God's sovereignty, man's free will, and Satan's powers. Using this as a template I can make anything that happens in the world look like God is on the side of Trump and/or the USA.

I see all of the time. People from both of the major camps select the verses that fit their preconceived ideas and the yrun with it. But if we use all of the scripture dealing with the issue it is a simple thing to figure out.

Predestination is a stone cold fact, the Word of God teaches it but if we deal with it from the position of the Calvinist, generally, makes God out to be capricious, at the very best. Because that position says that God creates people for no other reason than to go to the Lake of Fire for all eternity.

If we go from the view of Arminianism and men are only saved by grace, we deny predestination and I do not ever want to deny any of God's Word.

The Bible is inspired/written by one God and I will suggest by one person of the God Head, Jesus, the Son of God. (John 1:1-3) There is nothing that He did not create. So, How does it work that both predestination and arminianism can have gotten it wrong?

The answer's location just drives the World insane, crying Circular Logic. Of course they are correct but there is nothing else that can begin to understand God, there is not another like Him. But from the scriptures we learn that God is Omnipotent (John 10:29, Gen 1:1) and God is Omnipresent (Psa 139).

The problem with humans is this is all we see. We are on the inside of creation trying to look out but God is here, right now and He is on the outside looking in at the same time. Let's begin with the Time/Space Continuum He created for us to measure time and distance against.

God created the Time/Space Continuum that was not before, placing God on the outside and speaking it into existence. Now we know there is no limit to what God can do and we know He is not constrained by time nor space. And we know, for a fact that He wrote the Book of Life before He created the first thing.

The scriptures teach us the many are called but few are chosen and as I read John 3:16-8 it is safe to say that the many that are called are all that ever live have been called but not many have answered the door of their hearts. (2Pet 3:9)

This can hurt your head if you let it but if you ever get your head wrapped around it, the Bible makes perfect sense. So or time is not God's time and scripture confirms that to be truth. We serve a God of unlimited power and ability and it important to remember that because anywhere in the world, God is there, right now and anytime in the past God has been but looking at this from outside our Time/Space Continuum the past and the present are for God and time has meant nothing to Him, He created it, solely for us.

 

[steaver]

I see all of the time. People from both of the major camps select the verses that fit their preconceived ideas and they run with it.

Is it a preconceived idea that God raises up men into power for His own purposes?
Is it a preconceived idea that God orchestrates events with nations for His own end time purpose?
Is it a preconceived idea that God already set the players that would be before the foundation of the world?
Did God place Bush, Obama and Trump into the position of President of the USA to deal with other nations for His own purposes to fulfill His own plan?

 

[InTheLight]

Is it a preconceived idea that God raises up men into power for His own purposes?

Sure, but is it every man, every time, every era?

Is it a preconceived idea that God orchestrates events with nations for His own end time purpose?

Sure, but is it every nation, every time, every era?

Is it a preconceived idea that God already set the players that would be before the foundation of the world?

Sure, but is it every player, every time, every era?

Did God place Bush, Obama and Trump into the position of President of the USA to deal with other nations for His own purposes to fulfill His own plan?

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they aren't big players in his plan.

What was Zachary Taylor doing to fulfill God's plan? Alfred Deakin (prime minister of Australia, early 1900's)? Eduare Daladier (French prime minister in the run up to WWII)?

 

[steaver]

Sure, but is it every man, every time, every era?



Sure, but is it every nation, every time, every era?



Sure, but is it every player, every time, every era?



Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they aren't big players in his plan.

What was Zachary Taylor doing to fulfill God's plan? Alfred Deakin (prime minister of Australia, early 1900's)? Eduare Daladier (French prime minister in the run up to WWII)?

So you do not think God deals with each single person He has ever created for His own purpose?

 

[Brent W]

It is looking like this was just a waste of money at this point. The airfield was up and running less than 2 days after the attack and the mood seems to be that no more action will be taken.

 

[InTheLight]

So you do not think God deals with each single person He has ever created for His own purpose?

I didn't say that.

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[steaver]

It is looking like this was just a waste of money at this point. The airfield was up and running less than 2 days after the attack and the mood seems to be that no more action will be taken.

They were not trying to destroy the airport, air strips can be fixed within hours. They were hitting planes and ammunitions. 70 million is a good investment for destroying 20 planes plus ammo and fuel depots. Plus its a retaliation, not a war.

 

[Brent W]

They were not trying to destroy the airport, air strips can be fixed within hours. They were hitting planes and ammunitions. 70 million is a good investment for destroying 20 planes plus ammo and fuel depots. Plus its a retaliation, not a war.

I disagree. It did nothing to prevent a future gas attack or further genocide as Assad remains in power. Fuel and ammo can easily be replaced by Russia and they still have plenty of planes left.

 

[steaver]

I didn't say that.

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Well, did God want Trump to get involved or not? Or you think He didn't really care one way or the other?