Trump Administration Picks Strange Fight With Meals On Wheels

[Crabtownboy]

What does it say about a president who is willing to let the elderly poor go hungry?
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The Trump administration wants to cut funding for a program that delivers food to senior citizens because it isn’t worth the money, according to President Donald Trump’s budget director.

“We can’t spend money on programs just because they sound good and great,” Mick Mulvaney said Thursday, referring to Meals on Wheels, a program that uses volunteers to deliver warm meals to more than 1 million older Americans in their homes every week.

Block grants that states use to fund Meals on Wheels and other programs “are just not showing any results,” Mulvaney said. “We can’t do that anymore. We can’t spend money on programs just because they sound good. And Meals on Wheels sounds great.”

The Trump administration outlined a budget proposal Thursday that would increase military spending by $54 billion and offset the expense with cuts to a plethora of domestic programs.

The budget’s many targets included grants from federal agencies that some states use to help support Meals on Wheels programs, among other things. Mulvaney said the grants haven’t been worth the cost to the federal government, though states didn’t use the funds exclusively for home meal deliveries.

Trump Administration Picks Strange Fight With Meals On Wheels | The Huffington Post

 

[annsni]

Except he is not letting the elderly go hungry. A friend of mine did some searching yesterday and I'll just copy her info:

I've seen a few posts in this morning with hysterical media outlets shouting about Trump annoucing he will discontinue Meals on Wheels. Alongside a picture of a sad grandma is a chuckling photo of Trump. I hate to say this beucase it's a term that's getting over-used - but this is truly fake news. Made to look like the real thing. (Like Rachel Maddows sensationalized 1040 story the other day.)
Again - Trump is not my favorite person. He's inarticulate, he's got an arrogant streak, and he needs supervision when it comes to twitter, among other character flaws. But he's not stupid - I suspect he's highly intelligent.
I had to do a lot of searching through the many pages of sensational media outlets screaming out about Trump hating seniors with "quotes" like "Let-em die". But eventually, with the gargantuan effort it takes to click my mouse 8 or 10 times, I found some substance about the finances of Meals on Wheels, and the 2018 federal budget as it relates to Community Development Block Grants through which federal funds get to Meals on Wheels. So here's the real story that you can't find on "normal" or mainstream media:
The 2018 federal budget proposes to discontinue the $3 billion that now goes to Community Development Block Grants (CDBG) with a footnote that the CDBG has been ineffecitve in achieving any of it's goals. (My footnote - it's probably a slush fund for community organizers.) Instead the funds would be directed to state and local governemtns in block grants since they have a better idea of how to spend those dollars.
**IMPORTANT FACT** Meals on Wheels currently gets about 3% of it's funding from federal money through the CDBG - and has assets of more than $13 million.
An example of federal money to Meals on Wheels programs - San Jose, CA gets a $2.5mm CDBG from the federal government. About $103,000 (only 4% of the total community development block grant) goes to Meals on Wheels. 96% goes elsewhere - hopefully to food pantries and after-school programs). San Jose will now get those funds through a less restrictive block grant and can spend them in the way they think is most needed in their community.
This is an example of the things they don't tell you in the usual media outlets. There are people who will do anything to bring down a conservative if that's their goal, or a liberal if they are thinking the opposite way - and manufacturing news is only one method.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Annsni, I really thought you cared for people more than your reply indicates.

If the Defense budget can be increased by billions, then certainly food for the poor and elderly can also be funded fully. It isn't just Meals-On-Wheels, but also food pantries. I have worked as a volunteer at a food pantry and there are people truly in need who come there. It is unconscionable to decrease funding for such programs while increasing funding programs designed to kill people.

 

[HankD]

Democrats falsely accuse Trump of defunding Meals on Wheels
The lying left are at it again, this time claiming Trump wants seniors to starve.

Democrats falsely accuse Trump of defunding Meals on Wheels

Strange, "progressives" who approve of baby murder jump on fake news lies about wanting "seniors to starve".

HankD

 

[just-want-peace]

Annsni, I really thought you cared for people more than your reply indicates.

If the Defense budget can be increased by billions, then certainly food for the poor and elderly can also be funded fully. It isn't just Meals-On-Wheels, but also food pantries. I have worked as a volunteer at a food pantry and there are people truly in need who come there. It is unconscionable to decrease funding for such programs while increasing funding programs designed to kill people.

Crabby, you would fare a lot better if you would READ/COMPREHEND other's posts, IE ANNSI, and spend less time searching for and regurgitating all your Marxist liberal talking "points"!

Whether you realize it or not - or even care - you DO tend to make yourself the perfect example of "tis better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"!

SNIP

 

[Yeshua1]

Annsni, I really thought you cared for people more than your reply indicates.

If the Defense budget can be increased by billions, then certainly food for the poor and elderly can also be funded fully. It isn't just Meals-On-Wheels, but also food pantries. I have worked as a volunteer at a food pantry and there are people truly in need who come there. It is unconscionable to decrease funding for such programs while increasing funding programs designed to kill people.

You have to face the truth that almost all "facts" reported by most media on trump will be outright lies, or notthe whole truth!

 

[annsni]

Annsni, I really thought you cared for people more than your reply indicates.

If the Defense budget can be increased by billions, then certainly food for the poor and elderly can also be funded fully. It isn't just Meals-On-Wheels, but also food pantries. I have worked as a volunteer at a food pantry and there are people truly in need who come there. It is unconscionable to decrease funding for such programs while increasing funding programs designed to kill people.

But Meals On Wheels isn't a federally funded organization. They get 3% of their funding from grants and the rest from donations/corporate grants. What will be changed is that the grants that will fund this will be state based rather than a federal organization. So there will be NO loss to Meals on Wheels. I do care about people - and I care about the truth. Unfortunately, there is a lot of untruth out there which you seem to be espousing.

 

[Yeshua1]

But Meals On Wheels isn't a federally funded organization. They get 3% of their funding from grants and the rest from donations/corporate grants. What will be changed is that the grants that will fund this will be state based rather than a federal organization. So there will be NO loss to Meals on Wheels. I do care about people - and I care about the truth. Unfortunately, there is a lot of untruth out there which you seem to be espousing.

Its all liberal based nonsense...

 

[InTheLight]

Annsni, I really thought you cared for people more than your reply indicates.

Christians don't have to give up their compassion for people by delegating it to a government program.

If the Defense budget can be increased by billions, then certainly food for the poor and elderly can also be funded fully. It isn't just Meals-On-Wheels, but also food pantries. I have worked as a volunteer at a food pantry and there are people truly in need who come there. It is unconscionable to decrease funding for such programs while increasing funding programs designed to kill people.

Defense of the nation is a specific function of the federal government. Feeding people is not.

 

[InTheLight]

“We can’t spend money on programs just because they sound good and great,” Mick Mulvaney said Thursday, referring to Meals on Wheels, a program that uses volunteers to deliver warm meals to more than 1 million older Americans in their homes every week.

Block grants that states use to fund Meals on Wheels and other programs “are just not showing any results,” Mulvaney said. “We can’t do that anymore. We can’t spend money on programs just because they sound good. And Meals on Wheels sounds great.”

Perfect example of my long time contention that liberals only need good intentions, not results. Liberals feel good about themselves with programs like Meals on Wheels, never mind if they actually work!

 

[annsni]

Liberals: Stop Saying That Trump Will Kill Meals On Wheels

 

[Yeshua1]

Liberals: Stop Saying That Trump Will Kill Meals On Wheels

They cannot do that, as to them he is the antichrist!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Perfect example of my long time contention that liberals only need good intentions, not results. Liberals feel good about themselves with programs like Meals on Wheels, never mind if they actually work!

The results are elderly not going hungry. How is feeding your citizens and keeping them from hunger not getting good results?

I guess Jesus' words about feeding the poor fail Trump's test. Wonder what he and others will say at the final judgment?

 

[Alcott]

The results are elderly not going hungry. How is feeding your citizens and keeping them from hunger not getting good results?

I guess Jesus' words about feeding the poor fail Trump's test. Wonder what he and others will say at the final judgment?

Yes or No: at the judgment in which Jesus divides the people to his left or his right, will a person's position be determined by whether his government fed, clothed and sheltered people? (or whether he himself did so?)

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Crabby, you would fare a lot better if you would READ/COMPREHEND other's posts, IE ANNSI, and spend less time searching for and regurgitating all your Marxist liberal talking "points"!

Whether you realize it or not - or even care - you DO tend to make yourself the perfect example of "tis better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"!

SNIP

Could you possibly use another word besides SNIP....sounds like a castration!!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Yes or No: at the judgment in which Jesus divides the people to his left or his right, will a person's position be determined by whether his government fed, clothed and sheltered people? (or whether he himself did so?)

Did you vote for Trump and support his policies?

 

[Alcott]

Did you vote for Trump and support his policies?

Yes. And so far.
Now, are you still a coward to answer my question?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Yes. And so far.
Now, are you still a coward to answer my question?

What side do you think Christ is talking about concerning those people support leaders and policies that allow people to go hungry?

 

[Crabtownboy]

What side do you think Christ is talking about concerning those people support leaders and policies that allow people to go hungry?

 

[Alcott]

What side do you think Christ is talking about concerning those people support leaders and policies that allow people to go hungry?

Assuming you left out "...who..." between people and support,
it's irrelevant, since He himself did not seek to change any government policies which "allow people to go hungry." Or do you think he favored force-feeding policies?