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Trump Assassination Attempt At Correspondents Dinner

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
There again, it would be perfectly alright if you were. All I would ask of those who are anti Trump is that they articulate specific reasons why it would be better for the country if we had had a Democrat party in control of everything. Him being crude and not nice is not to me an acceptable argument. Now he may do something very wrong in the next couple of years and they will turn out to be right. But I just don't buy the argument that even this risk is worth instead supporting those who were promising to govern wrongly and stupidly as a matter of policy. Seriously, I would just ask that someone explain that.
It would be, depending on the "anti" part.

The percise argument should be that Trump lacks diplomacy (a necessity for diplomatic positions due to their interactions with foreign nations). But I am ok with that too.

I believe we should be able to take an honest look at our leaders (all have issues and strengths because all are human beings).

But the Democrats are simply engaging in false propaganda.

Both sides do this (Trump did with Kimmel's joke the other day). But the Democrats are far worse as their agenda is to shut down any dialogue.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
I believe the reason for not participating in politics was because political activity at that time in the Roman empire included worshiping the emperor as a god.
No, that was not the reason (they actually gave their reasons).

Origen said that the Chriatian is to separate from worldly politics and exercise those positions as gifted within the congregation.

Tertullian said that political involvement itself is evil because that is engaging within Satan's domain (one cannot serve two masters).

Hippolytus explained that a public official must resign from office prior to baptism or be rejected because secular government are concerned with the secular (as opposed to Christianity). They are different worlds.

It was not until the invention of the Catholic Church (when Christianity became the official religion) that Christians participated in politics. They did not gain that right. What happened is the political officials had to become "Christian".
 

Ascetic X

Well-Known Member
No, that was not the reason (they actually gave their reasons).

Origen said that the Chriatian is to separate from worldly politics and exercise those positions as gifted within the congregation.

Tertullian said that political involvement itself is evil because that is engaging within Satan's domain (one cannot serve two masters).

Hippolytus explained that a public official must resign from office prior to baptism or be rejected because secular government are concerned with the secular (as opposed to Christianity). They are different worlds.

It was not until the invention of the Catholic Church (when Christianity became the official religion) that Christians participated in politics. They did not gain that right. What happened is the political officials had to become "Christian".

Thanks for the concise explanation. They must not have paid much attention to Romans 13, “they are ministers of God”.

Having said that, I am disgusted by politics in general and only recently started voting.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
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So yes, absolutely jail the shooter for life. But the real problem is much larger and needs to be addressed rather than ignored. This rhetoric needs to be addressed on both sides.
There is little chance, imo, he gets life in prison.

20-25 years, yeah maybe

Peace to you
 
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