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[KenH]

I have no opinion about what Trump said.

Yes, you do.

Your opinion is obsolete.

No, my opinion just disagrees with your opinion.

But your opinions are factually incorrect.

No, my opinions are in conflict with your opinions, Jon.

 

[KenH]

No. I'm at work. I could get away with a nap when all is quiet (no jobs in my area) but I just can't do it. Last night I was busy in a CA, but tonight seems quiet.

This is my quality time with you.

Well, sorry, but it's over as I need to go to start heading for bed.

 

[JonC]

Yes, you do.



No, my opinion just disagrees with your opinion.



No, my opinions are in conflict with your opinions, Jon.

No.

I watched Trump denounce racism so I know he denounced racism. I have no opinion about it.

I watched Trump say there were fine people on both sides of the debate about removing statues while denouncing the neo-Nazis. So I know he was not calling the neo-Nazis "fine people. I have no opinion about that.

I watched Trump say he would not be a dictator except on day one and say by that he meant closing the boarders and drilling. I have no opinion on that.

There are facts (which I listed) and opinions that conflict with facts (which you hold, knowing they are false).

That is why I say "double-think".

You know Trump repeatedly condemned racism but at the same time you choose to believe he never condemned racism because that is what Hartis has told you to believe.

Trump condemning racism is not my opinion. The videos of his repeated condemnation of racism is proof. I have no opinion about it at all.


I just find the whole "sheeple" and "double-think" thing fascinating.

Trump says we need to "drill baby drill" even though we produced more oil domestically in the Biden administration. But Republicans think Biden stopped drilling while at some level knowing that is not true.

It's fascinating.

 

[JonC]

@KenH .... and members

To illustrate what I mean by facts vs opinion.

In post#93 Ken says that Trump condemning racism is a matter of opinion. His opinion is that Trump refused to condemn racism and he claims my statement that Trumobdid is merely an opinion.

I can watch the above video and state, as a fact, that Trump has repeatedly condemned racism.

I have no opinion about Trump condemning racism, but am merely stating as a fact that he did.

It is not a matter of opinions. @KenH can watch the video and he knows that Trump condemned racism but at the same time choose to hold the belief Trump never did.


This is what I call "double-think". It is holding two competing beliefs at one time, siding with a false belief as being true.


If I say a dog is a cat, then I am wrong. It is not a matter of opinion.

 

[MrW]

I still disagree with your opinion on those items. We can go round and round about them from now 'til Doomsday and I will still disagree with your opinion on those items.

Just the way it is, Jon, just the way it is.

“There is none so blind as they who will not see.”

Ray Stevens

 

[MrW]

You are wrong. An opinion is judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

We have the facts. We see what Trump said and what Harris claimed Trump said and that Harris lied.

That is fact. Not opinion.

Your opinion is based on ignoring facts.

But I agree we will disagree.

I don't vote. That is one reason I don't mind calling out each side when they lie.

You are, however, exercising "double think". You know the facts but at the same time choose to believe something contrary to those facts.

Dems know that Trump was speaking of drilling and closing the boarder on day one. But at the same time they choose to believe he wants to be a dictator even though in that same interview he denied it.

Dems know Trump was calling Americans on both sides of the statue debate "fine people", but they choose to believe something entirely different.

Dems know that Trump repeatedly denounced racism, but at the same time they choose to believe he never did.

It is not an issue of ignorance but of choosing to believe a lie while knowing it is a lie.

It is "double think".

If you don’t vote, you are letting lost people, people in rebellion against God, make unGodly decisions about just about every part of your life, your family’s lives, your friend’s and neighbor’s, right on down the line.

I don’t want the lost setting policy for this nation. They have done so for much too long!

 

[MrW]

If you don't like it, Jon, then close the thread or ban me from the board, if expressing my opinions, even if they pass muster in your eyes, are an offense subject to being banned.

Apparently, you operate on feelings, not facts, as so many of the younger generation do.

And that’s an observation, not an opinion.

 

[JonC]

If you don’t vote, you are letting lost people, people in rebellion against God, make unGodly decisions about just about every part of your life, your family’s lives, your friend’s and neighbor’s, right on down the line.

I don’t want the lost setting policy for this nation. They have done so for much too long!

The World is ungodly. Both parties are, by definition, enemies of God.

If I vote for the DNC then I support that evil. I support demonic practices, demonic values, and a demonic platform. The DNC is a danger to our nation and by joining the DNC I would become an enemy of godly values.

If I vote GOP then I am uniting with ungodly people. I am supporting a party that is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a party that views Christianity, Islam, Roman Catholicism, Buddhism, etc. as equal. I would be supporting a party that is dangerous to American Christianity. I'd be supporting SSM, the normalization of homosexuality. I would become an enemy of the Chriatian faith.


The World WILL set the laws for the World. If you are interested in Ametican values, if you are a patriot, if you believe tge Constitution should be followed THEN you would want the government to be "of the people" rather than a Christian oligarchy.

An ungodly nation deserves an ungodly government. More than that, our republic, our US Constitution, demands that an ungodly people gets an ungodly government.



I refuse to disobey God by abandoning His command to be holy and separated unto Him. I refuse to disobey God by becoming a part of a political party seeking to dominate a worldly kingdom which Christ said is not His. I refuse to disobey God by judging the World. I refuse to become "of the World" even to do what would be good in the eyes of men.

 

[KenH]

Apparently, you operate on feelings, not facts, as so many of the younger generation do.

Thank you for identifying this almost 70 year old man with being young.

 

[Scarlett O.]

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