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[KenH]

I didn't pay close attention either. But it was one about every channel.

Well, please excuse my ignorance about it, Jon.

 

[JonC]

I still disagree with your opinion on those items. We can go round and round about them from now 'til Doomsday and I will still disagree with your opinion on those items.

Just the way it is, Jon, just the way it is.

You are wrong. An opinion is judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

We have the facts. We see what Trump said and what Harris claimed Trump said and that Harris lied.

That is fact. Not opinion.

Your opinion is based on ignoring facts.

But I agree we will disagree.

I don't vote. That is one reason I don't mind calling out each side when they lie.

You are, however, exercising "double think". You know the facts but at the same time choose to believe something contrary to those facts.

Dems know that Trump was speaking of drilling and closing the boarder on day one. But at the same time they choose to believe he wants to be a dictator even though in that same interview he denied it.

Dems know Trump was calling Americans on both sides of the statue debate "fine people", but they choose to believe something entirely different.

Dems know that Trump repeatedly denounced racism, but at the same time they choose to believe he never did.

It is not an issue of ignorance but of choosing to believe a lie while knowing it is a lie.

It is "double think".

 

[KenH]

We have the facts.

You have your opinions based on your biases, just like the rest of us human beings.

 

[KenH]

Your opinion is based on ignoring facts.

My opinions are based on the facts that I have to work with.

 

[KenH]

You know the facts but at the same time choose to believe something contrary to those facts.

I form my opinions based on the facts that I have to work with, just like you and every other human being.

 

[JonC]

Well, please excuse my ignorance about it, Jon.

I could had you not posted to the contrary. When we say something we should have done at least a quick check of facts.

Same with your denial that Trump condemned racism when he did many times on nation television. He woukd condemn it and in the next breath the interviewer would ask why he won't condemn it.

Same with Hartis claiming Trump calked racists "fine peoole".

Same with Harris claiming Trump wants to be a dictator.

You should have known better, and you claim ignorance, yet you are involved in this discussion. One has no right to hold an opinion about something one knows nothing about.

You have been proven wrong - not by me but by Harris' words and what Trump actually said.



And I wouldn't vote for Trump as I believe the GOP more dangerous to Christianity in America (and the DNC more dangerous to our nation).

 

[KenH]

Dems know that Trump was speaking of drilling and closing the boarder on day one. But at the same time they choose to believe he wants to be a dictator even though in that same interview he denied it.

Dems know Trump was calling Americans on both sides of the statue debate "fine people", but they choose to believe something entirely different.

Dems know that Trump repeatedly denounced racism, but at the same time they choose to believe he never did.

Since I am not a member of the Democratic Party (with the takeover of the Libertarian Party by the Mises Caucus and the resultant destruction of it for all practical purposes, I am a free agent in the political party realm), I will leave you with your opinions about the Democratic and Republican Parties.

 

[JonC]

I form my opinions based on the facts that I have to work with, just like you and every other human being.

Except you now have proof that your opinions were wrong. You can see the short videos of Trump saying one thing and Harris lying.

It is also our responsibility to check out facts.

I'm sitting at work abd in just a couple of minutes found those videos and transcripts (using my phone) proving Harris lied.

Never take a politicians word about an opponent when you can very easily source what that opponent actually said.


Looks like Harris tricked you out of your vote.

 

[KenH]

I could had you not posted to the contrary. When we say something we should have done at least a quick check of facts.

All I did was ask you for a source. I don't know why you got all worked up over being asked for a source.

 

[JonC]

Since I am not a member of the Democratic Party (with the takeover of the Libertarian Party by the Mises Caucus and the resultant destruction of it for all practical purposes, I am a free agent in the political party realm), I will leave you with your opinions about the Democratic and Republican Parties.

I am not interested in opinions about either party. I am interested in actual facts.

And your opinions conflict with the facts.

 

[JonC]

All I did was ask you for a source. I don't know why you got all worked up over being asked for a source.

I'm not worked up. I'm going to be here for another 8 hours and 45 minutes and have nothing else to do.

 

[KenH]

Same with your denial that Trump condemned racism when he did many times on nation television. He woukd condemn it and in the next breath the interviewer would ask why he won't condemn it.

Same with Hartis claiming Trump calked racists "fine peoole".

Same with Harris claiming Trump wants to be a dictator.

As far as I know there is nothing wrong, based on the rules of the BB, with disagreeing with your opinions, Jon. You act like no one should challenge your opinions.

 

[KenH]

, yet you are involved in this discussion

If you don't like it, Jon, then close the thread or ban me from the board, if expressing my opinions, even if they pass muster in your eyes, are an offense subject to being banned.

 

[KenH]

Looks like Harris tricked you out of your vote.

You don't know how I ultimately voted last Tuesday morning(you don't even know if I skipped the presidential race), and I am not planning on letting you or anyone else know.

 

[KenH]

I'm sitting at work abd in just a couple of minutes found those videos and transcripts (using my phone) proving Harris lied.

Wow. Aren't you briliiant, Jon.

 

[KenH]

And your opinions conflict with the facts.

My opinions conflict with your opinions, Jon, and for some reason you are all worked over it.

 

[KenH]

I'm going to be here for another 8 hours and 45 minutes and have nothing else to do

Don't you sleep?

 

[JonC]

Wow. Aren't you briliiant, Jon.

No. That's my point. No brilliance required.

Just Google what Harris said Trump said and then what Trump actually said.

It works the other way too. Google what Trump said Hartis said and then what Hartis actually said.

 

[JonC]

My opinions conflict with your opinions, Jon, and for some reason you are all worked over it.

This is a false statement.

I have no opinion about what Trump said.

I am just saying that your opinion of what Trump said is not what Trump said. Your opinion is obsolete.

You claim you believed easily disproven lies but if that is so then you were tricked into supporting Harris.

And that's fine. Trump tries to trick people into supporting him as well.

But your opinions are factually incorrect.

 

[JonC]

Don't you sleep?

No. I'm at work. I could get away with a nap when all is quiet (no jobs in my area) but I just can't do it. Last night I was busy in a CA, but tonight seems quiet.

This is my quality time with you.