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MrW

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That is false. If there are other choices on the ballot, then there are other choices on the ballot. You can't truthfully say that there are no other choices than the two major party candidates. And you can't guarantee that either one of those people will be inaugurated on January 20, 2025. You, sir, as well as I, don't know what will happen between now and then. You, sir, as well as I, don't even know what will happen between now and November 5, 2024.



I disagree.

You go ahead and vote for Harris so your vote has a chance of counting.

Everybody in America knows there are only two choices—either Harris OR Trump will take the office—no dark horse in Arkansas, no matter if you have a dozen candidates on your ballot form. They have already all lost, except Trump or Harris, and even one of them will lose next month.
 

KenH

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You go ahead and vote for Harris so your vote has a chance of counting.

1) I am not planning on telling anyone how I ultimately ended up voting on this past Tuesday morning.

2) Arkansas is about two-thirds a Republican state. The Republicans totally dominate statewide federal and state elections for public office, as well as both houses of the state legislature. So statewide races in Arkansas are totally non-competitive in practical terms.
 

JonC

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I have never read or heard any such quote.



I disagree.



I disagree.



I disagree.



I disagree.



I disagree.



That is such an inane comment.
It does not matter if you agree or disagree. The fact is those are accurate.

The DNC is just as responsible. They created the environment just as much as Trump created the environment. Neither Trump or the DNC told those people to riot.
 
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KenH

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The fact is those are accurate.

I disagree. Especially on your failure, so far, to provide a reliable source, or any source, for the quote you allege that Hillary Clinton made about the 2016 election results.
 

JonC

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I disagree with your opinion.
That is fact. The DNC claimed that Trump stole the election and was an Illegitimate President. Hillary said she didn't know all of the details of how the GOP did it, but she won and Trump was an Illegitimate President.

This contributed to the environment in which some protestors ignored Trump on Jan 6 and rioted.

Trump acting like Hillary also contributed. But the DNC shares the blame.

To make matters worse the DNC weaponized the FBI to hurt down protestors who passed the barricade on Jan 6 but didn't riot or enter the building.

They lied about Trump, saying he called white supremists "fine people", refused to condemn racism, was a racist (without evidence), was a Russian asset, praised Hitler, sought a dictatorship....and the fools on the left (the sheeple) bought the lies their master sold them.
 
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KenH

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This contributed to the environment in which some protestors ignored Trump on Jan 6 and rioted.

Did you think that people should get away with misbehaving by claiming that someone else was doing it?

the fools on the left

The right is just as foolish, to a minarchist such as myself, as those on the left - they both want to expand the size, reach, and scope of government
 

KenH

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They lied about Trump, saying he called white supremists "fine people", refused to condemn racism, was a racist (without evidence), was a Russian asset, praised Hitler, sought a dictatorship

Again, I disagree with your opinion on these items, except maybe being a Russian "asset" despite his being friendly with Putin. I doubt that Trump is bright enough for someone to want to use as an asset.
 

KenH

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I wasn't aware they were needed (this was fairly common knowledge for those of us who lived through that election.

I'm old, JonC. Plus, my wife was still alive back then and I was working until I was put out to pasture 5 days into Trump's presidency. So I had other things to spend time on than every bit of news.
 

JonC

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Again, I disagree with your opinion on these items, except maybe being a Russian "asset" despite his being friendly with Putin. I doubt that Trump is bright enough for someone to want to use as an asset.
Well, let's look at the rest:

1. You disagree that Trump condemned racism.

Watch Sunday Morning: Hillary Clinton: "Trump knows he's an illegitimate president" - Full show on CBS


2. You disagree that Harris lied and said Trump calked racists "fine people".


OR that Trump was talking about fine people being on both sides of the statue debate.

Here is a part of the transcript:

REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Here is a link to the full transcript:


https://www.politico.com/story/2017...white-supremacists-alt-left-transcript-241662


3. You deny the Harris said Trump would be a dictator by his own admission.


Or you deny Trump said that he would be a dictator only on the first day to close the boarder and increase domestic oil production.

 

KenH

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Well, let's look at the rest:

1. You disagree that Trump condemned racism.

Watch Sunday Morning: Hillary Clinton: "Trump knows he's an illegitimate president" - Full show on CBS


2. You disagree that Harris lied and said Trump calked racists "fine people".


OR that Trump was talking about fine people being on both sides of the statue debate.

Here is a part of the transcript:

REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Here is a link to the full transcript:


https://www.politico.com/story/2017...white-supremacists-alt-left-transcript-241662


3. You deny the Harris said Trump would be a dictator by his own admission.


Or you deny Trump said that he would be a dictator only on the first day to close the boarder and increase domestic oil production.



I still disagree with your opinion on those items. We can go round and round about them from now 'til Doomsday and I will still disagree with your opinion on those items.

Just the way it is, Jon, just the way it is. :Wink
 

JonC

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I'm old, JonC. Plus, my wife was still alive back then and I was working until I was put out to pasture 5 days into Trump's presidency. So I had other things to spend time on than every bit of news.
I didn't pay close attention either. But it was one about every channel.

Point is you thought it was false without even checking (like the other facts you got wrong in my last post).

The only point you have left is proving that Trump is a racist (I proved the other points but it is up to you to provide evidence he is a racist).

The only clues we have that he is not is his comments, his history of dating black women, his history in the black community, his friends, and his policies that helped the black community (like funding minority colleges, personal contributions to black communities, contributions and help to Jackson and Sharpton before taking office, etc.).

You have to prove he is a racist rather than assuming so.
 
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