KenH
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I don't know about back in 2007, but in 2024, all wrestling fans are not Trump supporters.
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I don't know about back in 2007, but in 2024, all wrestling fans are not Trump supporters.
JonC, you will not vote for Trump, there you will acquiesce to Harris because you will not resist her, and you will by default support LGBTQ, child mutilation/transgenderism, men competing in women’s sports, wide open borders, increasing taxation, a national Federal law that prohibits laws against abortion, thus bringing them back to South Carolina, and ultimately socialism or communism.
You will not actively support the above, but you will passively support the above, because you will not support Trump. You have surrendered. But that’s your right to your own choice.
You will not actively support the above, but you will passively support the above, because you will not support Trump. You have surrendered. But that’s your right to your own choice.
Again, I have not heard Trump‘s speech, and I will not hear it. I am not interested in anyone’s vulgar speech, nor am I interested in their vulgar actions, for example, the things that Harris did with Willie Brown, to get into politics. Trump talks vulgar; Harris had vulgar actions.
No, I am not interested in hearing it, and I don’t like it when he uses any coarse language, but I am not voting for him to be my pastor; I am voting for the policies that he stands for, and so I am voting for him for president because he will be far better than Harris. If God wanted Trump to be out of the race, it would’ve happened in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Hopefully, when it is Vance’s turn, he will be a better person insofar as how he conducts himself.
No, I am not interested in hearing it, and I don’t like it when he uses any coarse language, but I am not voting for him to be my pastor; I am voting for the policies that he stands for, and so I am voting for him for president because he will be far better than Harris. If God wanted Trump to be out of the race, it would’ve happened in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Hopefully, when it is Vance’s turn, he will be a better person insofar as how he conducts himself.
KenH
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MAGA World says that Vice President Harris being elected in 2024 will result in socialism or communism.
Progressive World says that former President Trump being elected in 2024 will result in authoritarianism or fascism.
This is striking evidence of just how broken and sick the U.S. political system has become. The extremes in both major parties claim that the other major party will result in extreme results. Maybe that is because MAGA World and Progressive World are both extreme in and of themselves. Reckon?
Progressive World says that former President Trump being elected in 2024 will result in authoritarianism or fascism.
This is striking evidence of just how broken and sick the U.S. political system has become. The extremes in both major parties claim that the other major party will result in extreme results. Maybe that is because MAGA World and Progressive World are both extreme in and of themselves. Reckon?
KenH
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There are still several days until November 5. You might want to pump the brakes on claiming to know what the Sovereign Creator of the universe will do or not do in directing the course of human affairs. None of us have a guarantee of still being here on November 5.
Personally, I hope that Christ will return before November 5, and get rid of this present heavens and earth, and bring in the new heavens and earth wherein dwells righteousness. I am so ready for this entire corrupted universe to be gone.
MrW, if I had to sum up my entire problem with Trump, whom I just voted for, it's this...
I've heard far too many people say, "I'm not voting for a pastor, but for policies". What that means to me is that he gets a free pass to do and say anything he chooses. All kinds of immorality and lewdness and no one cares. All I find with people who vote for him AND support him is people who excuse him.
Yes, Harris had an affair. How many women has Trump slept with that he was not married to? I would not hazard to guess.
We know he's had three wives and cheated on them all. He's dated publicly SEVERAL models. He's had many girlfriends. That's all public knowledge.
I just don't understand how people can bash Kamala for one affair when Trump has had more women than we can count, relatively speaking.
That's my one and only issue. He get's a wink and a nod and free pass to say and do ANYTHING. Why is that?
I believe all should vote.
I think the number one thing to be considered when voting is which will be more apt to uphold the Constitution of this great country. Especially relative to individual rights.
Government by exercising power has and is taking your rights, especially right of speech away through NGO's.
Jon says he will not vote yet I believe Jon could express his views on Facebook as he does on here and Facebook will censor them in a heart beat at the request of Government.
I believe that is greatly more apt to take place under the Dem's than under Trump.
Notice I did not say under the Rep's. In reality I, "pray," Trump is neither. IMHO there is a greater difference between MAGA and both parties than between the two parties.
I think the number one thing to be considered when voting is which will be more apt to uphold the Constitution of this great country. Especially relative to individual rights.
Government by exercising power has and is taking your rights, especially right of speech away through NGO's.
Jon says he will not vote yet I believe Jon could express his views on Facebook as he does on here and Facebook will censor them in a heart beat at the request of Government.
I believe that is greatly more apt to take place under the Dem's than under Trump.
Notice I did not say under the Rep's. In reality I, "pray," Trump is neither. IMHO there is a greater difference between MAGA and both parties than between the two parties.
You make a good point. The point is, both of them are sinners. Both of them have done rotten things. Neither of them are good, righteous people. However, their goals and policies for America are polar opposites.
There are no saints on the ticket to be voted for as president. We have to look at Trump‘s record when he was president and look at the record of Harris as she has been vice president, and look at what they plan for America and then decide. There is no way on earth I could vote for Harris, but I am very comfortable voting for Trump, not because I excuse his blatant sins, but because his goals, his plans for America are far superior to those of Harris.
KenH
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Misogyny.
I don’t think he gets a free pass. I think it’s real simple. Either Harris will become president, or Trump will become president. That is how simple it is.
Since those are the only two choices, and we all oppose abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, etc., we have no choice except to vote for Trump. There are no other choices. We are locked in.
That is the simplicity of it.
KenH
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That is inaccurate. For example, here in Arkansas there are four active presidential candidates other than the two major party candidates.
Libertarian Oliver: Limit government to military, disputes - independentarkansas.com
Sonski running on life, solidarity - independentarkansas.com
Family losses from alcohol led Wood to Prohibition Party - independentarkansas.com
Green Party’s Stein: End corporate control, ‘endless war’ - independentarkansas.com
That is inaccurate.
As I noted above, at least in Arkansas, that is inaccurate.
As I noted above, at least in Arkansas, that is inaccurate.
Again, by your logic my not voting for Harris is supporting Trump. It is faulty logic.
You are also incorrect on your own position.
You ARE supporting LGBTQ. But just the conservative ones.
You ARE supporting pro-choice, but only 99% of abortions as you exclude late term abortions.
You ARE putting your support against a federal ban on abortion.
You ARE supporting the normalization of homosexuality and SSM.
The reason is you are supporting Trump and the above are things he has promised.
I am just not willing to support the things you stand for.
KenH
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I have noticed over the years that those who are stuck in the Duopoly paradigm, will often claim that if one does not vote or votes for a minor party or an independent candidate in a race, that, regardless of which of the Duopoly candidates they support, they will claim that by not voting or by not voting for their preferred candidate, that one is automatically therefore helping the other Duopoly candidate that they do not support.
We see it every election these days. It is a pretty stupid argument, if only because any side can use it at the same time.
If I vote for a 3rd party or dont vote at all then Trump supporters will see me as supporting Harris and Harris supporters as supporting Trump.
Truth, however, is a bit different. But politics is rarely concerned with truth.
KenH
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Politics is concerned with winning, and gaining and maintaining power.
Also one that represents you (in politics....your values...moral, economic, etc.)
I don't have one of those.
That said, I would like to see Trump win just because I enjoy watching Dems freak out. They do it so spectacularly. Republicans just complain. Not as fun to watch.
KenH
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And file lawsuits, lots of lawsuits. And riot at the nation's Capitol.
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