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Trump Orders Strikes on Syria

Saved-By-Grace

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First, common sense, and some basic knowledge of critical thinking skills, would lead you to understand your red herring doesn't demonstrate one word I said to be false.

Second, the "focus of the strike totally appropriate by any rational standard" is because it was solely against chemical storage facilities and develop facilities of these weapons.

Third, the town has been totally surrounded and it clearly common sense which only leaves one option as to the perpetrator(s) and there is no doubt chemical attack loving Russia is lying about the event. ...You want to know how I can be sure they are lying? ...Their lips are moving... ;)


You suppose the US are innocent after what they did in WWII, when they dropped 2 A bombs on Japan? This is FAR WORSE! They could not win the war, so they used the equivalent of nukes. I am 100% against the use of WMD's in any form, and any country known to use them, MUST be punished, only after PROOF is produced.
 

Adonia

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You suppose the US are innocent after what they did in WWII, when they dropped 2 A bombs on Japan? This is FAR WORSE! They could not win the war, so they used the equivalent of nukes. I am 100% against the use of WMD's in any form, and any country known to use them, MUST be punished, only after PROOF is produced.

The Japanese had it coming - they started the war and had given no indication that they were willing to surrender any time soon before the bombs were dropped. They were the most brutal kind of people in the conquest of Asia and the Pacific areas, and all they did was supported by the Emperor and the people of japan.

What they did to the people in Nanking China was simply horrendous. When they took Hong Kong they went into the hospitals and bayoneted the wounded, raped the nurses and then bayoneted them! We cannot forget the "Bataan Death March" and all the men they killed there and the way they treated all the allied POW's they captured in general. These people herded American military personnel into below ground air raid shelters on Palawan Island, doused them in gasoline and set them alight.

I could go on and on about the atrocities they committed in WW2, but sorry they got what they deserved at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and we did the right thing. I thank God for Harry Truman because my Dad was there in the Pacific and his outfit was scheduled to be in on the invasion of Japan. American planners expected American casualties was to be in the range of 1 million - dead and wounded combined because in every previous battle the Japanese never surrendered, they literally fought to the death.

In religious terms they reaped what they sowed and I don't feel the least bit of remorse for what happened to them in those two cities.
 
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Saved-By-Grace

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The Japanese had it coming - they started the war and had given no indication that they were willing to surrender any time soon before the bombs were dropped. They were the most brutal of people in the conquest of Asia and the Pacific areas. What they did to the people in Nanking China was simply horrendous. When they took Hong Kong they went into the hospitals and bayonetted the wounded, raped the nurses and then bayonetted them! We cannot forget the "Bataan Death March" and the way they treated all the allied POW's they captured. These people herded American military personnel into below ground air raid shelters on Palawan Island, doused them in gasoline and set them alight. I could go on and on about the atrocities they committed in WW2. Sorry, but they got what they deserved at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and we did the right thing. In religious terms the reaped what they sowed and I don't feel bad one bit for them.

"Sorry, but they got what they deserved at Hiroshima and Nagasaki", does this include all of the innocent people in Japan, who would have been against any war, or just the armed forces? Did the bombs only kill those involved in the war? Assad could use the same reasoning that you are, and say that he wants to completely wipe out ISIS, and sadly innocents will also die? You know what ISIS are going, as wicked and evil as the Japs!
 

Adonia

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"Sorry, but they got what they deserved at Hiroshima and Nagasaki", does this include all of the innocent people in Japan, who would have been against any war, or just the armed forces? Did the bombs only kill those involved in the war? Assad could use the same reasoning that you are, and say that he wants to completely wipe out ISIS, and sadly innocents will also die? You know what ISIS are going, as wicked and evil as the Japs!

Yep. There might have been a few innocents, but the whole Japanese people in the main supported the war. Hey, I said before that most of the people fighting Assad are Islamists themselves and I was against giving them the use of our Air Force. They should be allowed the kill themselves with no intervention from us as far as I am concerned. WW2 was completely different.
 

Saved-By-Grace

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Yep. There might have been a few innocents, but the whole Japanese people in the main supported the war. Hey, I said before that most of the people fighting Assad are Islamists themselves and I was against giving them the use of our Air Force. They should be allowed the kill themselves with no intervention from us as far as I am concerned. WW2 was completely different.

"There might have been a few innocents"? which planet do you live on? MANY THOUSANDS died because of the A bombs, and THOUSANDS still today are still being born with major health problems because of IT!!!
 

Benjamin

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You suppose the US are innocent after what they did in WWII, when they dropped 2 A bombs on Japan? This is FAR WORSE! They could not win the war, so they used the equivalent of nukes. I am 100% against the use of WMD's in any form, and any country known to use them, MUST be punished, only after PROOF is produced.
By your reasoning I take it the many more thousands of innocent young American boys lives, and Japanese lives for that matter, that would have been lost should the war with Japan continued by conventional methods means nothing to you? I don’t know where you are from or what guides you, but you seem to have missed the big picture that many more lives would have been spent without the nukes and then there’s that little issue of taking care of your own family.

1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Nope, it seems you’ve either stopped short in your reasoning to come up with such statements as a defense against of our standing up to the use of atrocious chemical weapons and overlooked the terrible consequences of allowing the use of it to evolve ...or perhaps simply prefer to conform and rationalize toward supporting Progressive thinking while striving to adopt the mindset to put down the U.S.A. at every turn having been brainwashed into believing it an honorable agenda to do so?
 

Saved-By-Grace

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By your reasoning I take it the many more thousands of innocent young American boys lives, and Japanese lives for that matter, that would have been lost should the war with Japan continued by conventional methods means nothing to you? I don’t know where you are from or what guides you, but you seem to have missed the big picture that many more lives would have been spent without the nukes and then there’s that little issue of taking care of your own family.

1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Nope, it seems you’ve either stopped short in your reasoning to come up with such statements as a defense against of our standing up to the use of atrocious chemical weapons and overlooked the terrible consequences of allowing the use of it to evolve ...or perhaps simply prefer to conform and rationalize toward supporting Progressive thinking while striving to adopt the mindset to put down the U.S.A. at every turn having been brainwashed into believing it an honorable agenda to do so?

The simple question remains. WHO gave the US ANY right to get involved in countries that have nothing to do with them? Recent history shows, from Iraq and Libya, that both countries are 1000% WORSE now than before the removal of Gadaffi and Hussen. There would be NO ISIS and THOUSANDS of lives would have been saved. This in itself is CRIMINAL. No point misquoting the Bible, when you support the ILLEGAL activities of the US.
 

Benjamin

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The simple question remains. WHO gave the US ANY right to get involved in countries that have nothing to do with them?

Our only involvement was to put a strike on the chemical weapons and we have every right to stop the use of these weapons in the world and as I've said, and you ignored, it would be incompetent not to and to allow the use of these weapons to evolve in the world, it would affect everyone.


Recent history shows, from Iraq and Libya, that both countries are 1000% WORSE now than before the removal of Gadaffi and Hussen. There would be NO ISIS and THOUSANDS of lives would have been saved. This in itself is CRIMINAL.

You must be thinking of the consequences from the last administration's incompetence to take proper action action.

No point misquoting the Bible, when you support the ILLEGAL activities of the US.

You do realize the fallacy in your response wherein your conclusion doesn't support your your premise or discount my use of the verse, right?
 

carpro

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France goes along with the US, because they now believe that they, and not the UK, have this "special relationship" with the US!!!

That's not even close to being true.

France provided the bulk of the evidence upon which the strikes were based. They didn't "go along" with the US. They may , in fact , have begged the US to join them.
 

carpro

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Well, aren't the Europeans affected as much as we are? They are of course closer to the Middle East. It's time they gear up and get in the game and Germany in particular has lot's of money, why not them?

Not going to happen.
Germany is in bed with the Iranians.
 

carpro

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does DT have ANY proof that it was Assad?

Yep, mostly provided by the French. In addition reportedly, eye witnesses saw barrel bombs dropped from Syrian helicopters. The rebels have no helicopters.
 
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carpro

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The Japanese had it coming - they started the war and had given no indication that they were willing to surrender any time soon before the bombs were dropped. They were the most brutal kind of people in the conquest of Asia and the Pacific areas, and all they did was supported by the Emperor and the people of japan.

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As far as I'm concerned, we should have nuked Okinawa and save the lives of the over 12,000 Americans that died there.
 

Saved-By-Grace

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Our only involvement was to put a strike on the chemical weapons and we have every right to stop the use of these weapons in the world and as I've said, and you ignored, it would be incompetent not to and to allow the use of these weapons to evolve in the world, it would affect everyone.




You must be thinking of the consequences from the last administration's incompetence to take proper action action.



You do realize the fallacy in your response wherein your conclusion doesn't support your your premise or discount my use of the verse, right?

It is no wonder that the Church is in such a mess, with people you you and some others on BB, that are supposed to be "christians", with your unchristlike attitudes!
 

Squire Robertsson

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There was no target to nuke on Okinawa. Or rather there were more targets than we had nuclear bombs (two). I may be wrong. But, I think you know very little about the Okinawa campaign or how the island fit into the Japanese empire or American strategy.
As far as I'm concerned, we should have nuked Okinawa and save the lives of the over 12,000 Americans that died there.
 

Saved-By-Grace

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Yep, mostly provided by the French. In addition reportedly, eye witnesses saw barrel bombs dropped from Syrian helicopters. The rebels have no helicopters.

French? "eye witnesses"? "rebels have no helicopters"? Are you Americans that gullible???
 
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