Trump Orders Strikes on Syria

[InTheLight]

OK, this is very cludgey but I hope this 'pastes' up ok as I am not sure how to redact it further

London Goes All “Stop and Frisk”.
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News & Current Events
#38 -carpro

Facts are "racist", I suppose. BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Violent immigrants fuelling crime Violent immigrants fuelling crime Young immigrants from violent and war-torn countries are fuelling mayhem and murder on ...

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Political Debate & Discussion
#2 -carpro

Most European countries are 3rd world countries in the making.. Civil rights are disappearing almost entirely. They're toast. It's too late to stop the corrosive and hateful influence of islam. It won't be long til the U.S is the only ...



Well, they're there on the ground which is more than you, I, Trump, May or Macron are.

Two posts? That's it?

One of them is a BBC news story about violent immigrants from war-torn countries, no mention of Muslims, not even an opinion offered by Carpro. The other is about hateful, radical Islamists. Sorry, but that's not evidence of an obsession with Muslims.

Anyway, Carpro can speak for himself.

 

[Covenanter]

I don't recall Carpro going on about Muslims all the time. Besides, the objection by Carpro is that Covenanter is posting the exact same thing in multiple threads. Which is exactly what Covenanter is doing.

Also, I'm failing to see why these church patriarchs are experts on the issue.

Furthermore, if you read the entire statement it ends with, "We salute the courage, heroism, and sacrifices of the Syrian Arab Army which courageously protects Syria and provides protection for its people."
(I think they misspelled "Russian Air Force" and "slaughter dissenters" in that statement. Oh well...)

I posted the link in two separate threads -
BUT
there are three threads on the attack on Syria.

A statement by local Christians is highly relevant, whereas the opinion of uninformed posters is not.

And I don't think the Trump tweets are fully informed statements of thought out & informed policy.

 

[InTheLight]

I posted the link in two separate threads -
BUT
there are three threads on the attack on Syria.

A statement by local Christians is highly relevant, whereas the opinion of uninformed posters is not.

Prove that they are informed about Assad's chemical weapons program.

The fact that they support Assad's army, who are working with Russia's military makes them suspect.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

There was no target to nuke on Okinawa. Or rather there were more targets than we had nuclear bombs (two). I may be wrong. But, I think you know very little about the Okinawa campaign or how the island fit into the Japanese empire or American strategy.

You would be wrong.

But be that as it may, Japanese defenses were almost all on the southern end of the island, but there's a chance we didn't know that for sure.

I fear you missed my second sentence now bolded. But, for the sake of a discussion, using nukes on Okinawa would not have had any effect on the powers that be in Tokyo.

 

[carpro]

Two posts? That's it?

One of them is a BBC news story about violent immigrants from war-torn countries, no mention of Muslims, not even an opinion offered by Carpro. The other is about hateful, radical Islamists. Sorry, but that's not evidence of an obsession with Muslims.

Anyway, Carpro can speak for himself.

You're doing fine.

But I won't even bother. It's not worth the effort.

His accusation is ridiculous and I believe most of the regular posters here know it.

 

[Benjamin]

It is no wonder that the Church is in such a mess, with people you you and some others on BB, that are supposed to be "christians", with your unchristlike attitudes!

That's the best example of an Ad Hominem reply I've seen in a long time! Congratulations!

 

[carpro]

I fear you missed my second sentence now bolded. But, for the sake of a discussion, using nukes on Okinawa would not have had any effect on the powers that be in Tokyo.

That is certainly true. But it might have saved 12000 American lives. OTOH That was probably a huge contributing factor that helped Truman make his final decision.

So I guess the question is, was that worth 12000 American lives?

At any rate, water under the bridge. What's done is done and, in this case, it was done well.

 

[carpro]

That's the best example of an Ad Hominem reply I've seen in a long time! Congratulations!

Duly ignored.

Just consider the source and move on.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

That is certainly true. But it might have saved 12000 American lives. OTOH That was probably a huge contributing factor that helped Truman make his final decision.

So I guess the question is, was that worth 12000 American lives?

At any rate, water under the bridge. What's done is done and, in this case, it was done well.

Are American lives worth more than others?

 

[Steven Yeadon]

I posted the link in two separate threads -
BUT
there are three threads on the attack on Syria.

A statement by local Christians is highly relevant, whereas the opinion of uninformed posters is not.

And I don't think the Trump tweets are fully informed statements of thought out & informed policy.

I will wander into this hornet's nest to say that as the OP of two of the threads on Syria, I find that information from covenanter very informative. It reminds us that Assad, of all people, is the one thing between a bunch of brothers and sisters being tortured to death by a ton of radical islamists participating in the rebellion. Unfortunately, these Brethren seem to lack the capacity to really criticize the regime for its war crimes, something they will have to explain to Jesus one day.

 

[carpro]

I will wander into this hornet's nest to say that as the OP of two of the threads on Syria, I find that information from covenanter very informative. It reminds us that Assad, of all people, is the one thing between a bunch of brothers and sisters being tortured to death by a ton of radical islamists participating in the rebellion. Unfortunately, these Brethren seem to lack the capacity to really criticize the regime for its war crimes, something they will have to explain to Jesus one day.

Spamming is not only unnecessary and a plea for attention, it's against the rules.

If one of our members is so insecure that they have to yell a little louder than the rest of us to be heard, they need to just grow up.

End of story.

 

[carpro]

Are American lives worth more than others?

In that particular case , absolutely.

The 29th Marine Regiment that was almost wiped out taking a 50 ft tall hill on Okinawa say so as well. But take it they did. The lives of all the Japanese soldiers on the island weren't worth theirs.

 

[Matt Black]

As David Kent has said elsewhere, it does seem to be a very worldly unregenerate form of Christianity espoused by some here.

 

[Covenanter]

Wars against us or US or UK such as WW2 may require armed response, but -
it seems very often the wars are against our commercial or imperial interests, & we are fighting against the people of the other countries - resistance fighters or local patriots.
Also -
we make take sides in civil war & by our intervention vastly increase the devastation as we don't live there - I seem to remember in connection with the Iraq war that US companies such as Halliburton would be the main agent for the reconstruction after the expected devastation, rather than UK construction companies.

 

[Covenanter]

I wonder .....
if chemical/germ warfare is actually more acceptable than high explosive "conventional" warfare?

Bombs cause massive devastation & loss of life & destruction of infrastructure.

Many diseases are temporarily incapacitating, and allow complete recovery for most of the sufferers. In Bible times, siege was a powerful method of war that caused surrender rather than devastation. I've heard also that the Romans catapulted rotten animals into besieged cities to cause disease. Cutting off water supply is an effective resource.

I'm not advocating tactics such as mass poisoning with deadly gases, or with radioactive agents.

 

[Revmitchell]

Neither do I care what you believe. I say what I believe to be the truth, as if you are supposed to be a minister of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, then you will know that ALL Christians who follow the Lord Jesus, are told to LOVE THEIR ENEMIES. How about caring what the Bible teaches? I have asked for ONE Scripture to show where ANY true born-again Christian can go to war and KILL others, and you have failed to do so! because there is NO verse for this. Period!

Just know you will create many enemies here bashing vets.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Just know you will create many enemies here bashing vets.

as long as what I say does not upset the Lord, which I know it will not!

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

You asked me to give you scripture that authorizes Christians going to war. I asked you to give me scripture showing Christians should use a toilet. The lack of scripture authorizing something is not evidence that Christians should not engage in something. To suggest that is poor hermeneutics.

When Peter took out a sword to defend Jesus, what was Jesus' response? PUT AWAY YOUR SWORD (Matthew 26:52); "All who live by the sword, will die by the sword". Which is very clear to me that Jesus is 100% AGAINST the use of force, in whatever form it is. You should have known this?

 

[HankD]

where is the NT justification for this? Let the world do its own killings, but WE are followers of Jesus are in another, much higher army for the salvation of lost souls.

Romans 13.

 

[Matt Black]

You keep citing that passage. "I do not think it means what you think it means."