Which part of T U L I P is that stated?
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TULIP POLL
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Which part of T U L I P is that stated?
If you could offer biblical correction I would definitely consider it. So far I haven't seen any evidence from the three or four that are posting on here opposing the truth anyone getting close to offering anything that look like biblical correction. What I see is long rambling post that more resemble the Unabomber Manifesto
timtofly
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My post are to get people to think. I will not use Scripture to defend a position. If I use Scripture it is to make a point. I am not here to defend any doctrine or theology. Most here know and post thousands of verses. It is interpretations and thoughts that need to change. My point is the church age is over. No more doctrine or theology. I point out Revelation 6 is already happening now. Can I force any one to agree? No, only the Holy Spirit can do that, but since I do not accept Reformed theology, not even the Holy Spirit can force someone against their will. It is up to each individual to choose to obey God. If false spirits are at work, it is still not about me. I can only obey God as well.
It is not (and therefore does not relate to the OP). But @Earth Wind and Fire is correct that Calvinism affirms infant baptism (it is in the Canons of Dort, (i.e., the five points or "heads" of Calvinism) which TULIP represents. It is a fair observation.
Miss E
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Are you just going to ignore the scripture I provided ?
(Romans 2: 1-11)
1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2And we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, O man, pass judgment on others, yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4Or do you disregard the riches of His kindness, tolerance, and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you to repentance?
5But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God “will repay each one according to his deeds.”a 7To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger.
9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Greek; 10but glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Greek. 11For God does not show favoritism.
I can't keep you from twisting the scripture and seeing it the way YOU want to see it to reinforce your elitism ideology. I believe in a God who gives all man a chance to choose Him over themselves. Your God is a false, wicked God who chooses people against their will, to either damn or save them. God doesn't damn anyone, He offers salvation and people damn themselves by choosing to believe in themselves and not trust in Holy and Loving God. Amen.
Well. according to Presbyterians, but not we baptists!
Only the Presbyterian wing, not the baptist one!
That about says it.
yes
Calvin teaches it.
If The Father offers salvation and you don’t take it then you are the one in league with Satan .... so why would he offer it to them who are the devils spawn? And do you feel the Father doesn’t know this? That just doesn’t make sense. You are just making your Sovereign Lord look stupid and inept. I believe on the Lord to do what’s right ( without question).
Read Calvins writings for clarification then.
Miss E
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timtofly
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Calling people devils spawn is physically impossible. Jesus says Angels cannot procreate. Being of like mind of Satan is doable. You must be lucky to never have Satan put thoughts into your mind. It was Adam's disobedience that ruined life, not Satan. Unless you accept it is ok to "pass the buck", or just blame Satan for everything.
How does having free will, "question God"?
Presbyterianism is Calvinism (Calvinism proper). Believers Baptism was to Calvinists a heresy (it was a departure from Calvinism even before Arminianism was considered a departure).
My point, if course, is TULIP represents the Calvinistic responce to the ideas of the Remonstrance. Calvinism. Was initially more substantial than just the Canons of Dort (much less just the summary of TULIP).
I am ignoring someone who likes error, and rebels against truth. No need to pursue that.Nothing new, You're just ignoring the truth for what It says.
Sai
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The last of the five points of Calvinism teaches that God preserves His people so they can never be lost. To put it simply, it means this: "Once you are saved, you are always saved."
^ According to his link with the description it is
I thought it was for “ the perseverance of the saints” meaning working.
Sai
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Don’t they believe in “never lost”?
If God goes after you, your not going to reject Him.
timtofly
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Can you convince Adam of that fact?
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