UFO Disclosure

[Dolour]

It was not me, but it does not matter... *laugh*

It indeed doesnt matter, in the sense that youve approved those concerns raised about ppls behaviour in "Brave new World".

You do realize that your aura of credibility has all but disappeared, right?
...And where did you learn to spell? I counted nine spelling/punctuation errors alone. Must be a record for such a short post

You seem to not even realize, that by assaulting my "credibility", and poining out spelling errors(sue me) instead of dealing with WHAT
i say, you underline that even more.
No substance or usable information of any sorts, and no arguments other than "because i say so".
Instead we get stupendeous "I dont allways..." pictures, hence, as stated above, you react according to your programming, with redicule
and personal diffamation.
And obviously you didnt take a minute to reflect over it.

p.s.: The very day your german can compete with my english, your free to complain about my spelling as much as you want.

 

[Rolfe]

p.s.: The very day your german can compete with my english, your free to complain about my spelling as much as you want.

*laugh*

Ich spreche vier Sprachen. Deutsch ist eine.

 

[Rolfe]

It indeed doesnt matter, in the sense that youve approved those concerns raised about ppls behaviour in "Brave new World".


You seem to not even realize, that by assaulting my "credibility", and poining out spelling errors(sue me) instead of dealing with WHAT
i say, you underline that even more.
No substance or usable information of any sorts, and no arguments other than "because i say so".
Instead we get stupendeous "I dont allways..." pictures, hence, as stated above, you react according to your programming, with redicule
and personal diffamation.
And obviously you didnt take a minute to reflect over it.

 

[heisrisen]

UFO's and aliens are demons in disguise so they can deceive people into believing in aliens. That's why there's so many alien TV shows and movies. Satan wants people to be desensitized to it so that when the rapture happens, they'll have an excuse. I believe it will be part of the big deception. Anything to draw people away from Christ.

 

[Dolour]

*laugh*

Ich spreche vier Sprachen. Deutsch ist eine.

1. Wie schön für dich, viel Spass beim "Grammar-Nazi" spielen.
Das "darfst" Du von mir aus jetzt gerne machen bis dir langweilig wird. *Applaus*
2. Again fancy pictures instead of anything with substance. GZ, you obviously missed the point.
Nobody whos spending more than a couple minutes on the topic, can deny that theres "something in the bushes" so to speak.
Oppinions on weather were dealing with aliens, demons, timetravellers, dimensionhoppers, *insertwhatever* may differ,
but the plain fact that there IS something going on is beyond question.
By questioning peoples sanity, without any further explanation on how youve debunked the above statement, youve demonstrated
(note how im not talking about your believes differing from mine) that you didnt bother to investigate it at all.
Thereby youve blatantly ignored Proverbs 18:13, and proove how your at best a Troll(because you dont even stick to the flamewar 101,
by mixing in something thats actually OT) , or the archetype of a "lukewarm christian" in the worst case.
Note how Jesus made clear that theres no "middle ground", and you either stick to 100%(not 99%) of scriptural teachings, or your
a hippocrite to begin with.
So, yes. People like you fill me with a deep, deep feeling of sadness.
If you dont have any actual information to contribute to a topic, its sometimes better to keep your 0.05$ for yourself.
Its not like the Internet would have a shortage of Trolls or anything...
Galatians 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

@heisrisen:
Think about it for a second. If wed discover that theres actual aliens out there, then evolution MUST be true, right?
Its THE major assault on Genesis, and if you can debunk the 1st chapter of the Bible: How much credibility could the rest have?
...or why even bother to keep reading at all, if page 1 is allready nonsense.

 

[Rolfe]

Thereby youve blatantly ignored Proverbs 18:13, and proove how your at best a Troll(because you dont even stick to the flamewar 101,
by mixing in something thats actually OT) , or the archetype of a "lukewarm christian" in the worst case.

I do not mind being called a troll by people who cannot make their cases; but since you resort to questioning my Christianity, this conversation is over.

 

[Dolour]

I do not mind being called a troll by people who cannot make their cases; but since you resort to questioning my Christianity, this conversation is over.

First up: We didnt have any conversation, you were just trolling and tossing around insults.
Id actually love to have a conversation, you just dont seem to be interrested in that at all.
More like terminating this discussion with weak trolls.
Second: By insulting people and ignoring easy to follow rules found in the Bible, you pretty much ask for it.
Thats not exactly good christian behavior.
And quite frankly, 2 Tomothy 3:16 talks about how sripture is suitable for rebuking guys that act like you did.
(Allso, see Matthew 7 in case you didnt figure that out yourself.)

 

[padredurand]

First up: We didnt have any conversation, you were just trolling and tossing around insults.
Id actually love to have a conversation, you just dont seem to be interrested in that at all.
More like terminating this discussion with weak trolls.
Second: By insulting people and ignoring easy to follow rules found in the Bible, you pretty much ask for it.
Thats not exactly good christian behavior.
And quite frankly, 2 Tomothy 3:16 talks about how sripture is suitable for rebuking guys that act like you did.
(Allso, see Matthew 7 in case you didnt figure that out yourself.)

I Timothy talks about how to rebuke guys that act like you:

1 Timothy 1:3-7 NAS77

3 As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus, in order that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines,
4 nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.
5 But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
6 For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion,
7 wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.​

 

[Dolour]

I Timothy talks about how to rebuke guys that act like you:

1 Timothy 1:3-7 NAS77

3 As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus, in order that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines,
4 nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.
5 But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
6 For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion,
7 wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.​

The KJV says in Verse 3 "teach no other doctrine", i.e. a different gospel. (A good example of why you should get a King James tho...)
Verse 4 "myths" meaning made up stories. With the Bible actually talking about fallen Angels and Nephilim, i wouldnt exactly
compartmentalize that as a "myth", unless you doubt what scripture says.
Verse 5, taking precaution that ppl dont fall for fake arguments "prooving" evolution does ensures they dont fall from their faith.
Ive seen enough folks disbelieving the Bible due to its incompatibility to the claims of(dishonest) secular research.
As to Verse 6: Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."
I wouldnt really call ensuring the things Jesus warned us about not happening "fruitless discussion".
Verse 7: So your saying posting troll memes, and dismissing stuff based on presumptions, isnt violating Proverbs 18:13, and that i
should ignore the call to rebuke people acting against it?
If you give those last couple pages a read, youll quickly figure that im not really unfamiliar with the "matters about which they(i) make
confident assertions" about.
As a matter of fact, ive been critisizing that very act... *duh*

 

[Rolfe]

First up: We didnt have any conversation,
...

(Okay, one more comment.)

Yes, we did. I wrote something...you wrote something to answer. That is conversation.

 

[padredurand]

The KJV says in Verse 3 "teach no other doctrine", i.e. a different gospel. (A good example of why you should get a King James tho...)
Verse 4 "myths" meaning made up stories. With the Bible actually talking about fallen Angels and Nephilim, i wouldnt exactly
compartmentalize that as a "myth", unless you doubt what scripture says.
Verse 5, taking precaution that ppl dont fall for fake arguments "prooving" evolution does ensures they dont fall from their faith.
Ive seen enough folks disbelieving the Bible due to its incompatibility to the claims of(dishonest) secular research.
As to Verse 6: Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."
I wouldnt really call ensuring the things Jesus warned us about not happening "fruitless discussion".
Verse 7: So your saying posting troll memes, and dismissing stuff based on presumptions, isnt violating Proverbs 18:13, and that i
should ignore the call to rebuke people acting against it?
If you give those last couple pages a read, youll quickly figure that im not really unfamiliar with the "matters about which they(i) make
confident assertions" about.
As a matter of fact, ive been critisizing that very act... *duh*

What I'm saying is between your problematic syntax, obvious fear of a spellchecker and that shape shifting demon thing... there's not a lot here to see except for speculation, conjecture and eisegesis.

 

[Dolour]

What I'm saying is between your problematic syntax, obvious fear of a spellchecker and that shape shifting demon thing... there's not a lot here to see except for speculation, conjecture and eisegesis.

You first start off by throwing in some redicule(due to the lack of any real arguments, and reaction to your programming), pick one piece
of the topic(which you consider ludicrous obviously, furthermore increasing redicule levels), to not post something ONLY consisting of
insults, and then proceed to turning into ignorance mode, by denying the months worth of matieral thats available on the topic, to which
theres quite numerous references here in this very thread.
There is something problematic here, i agree...

@Rolf:
conversation
"informal interchange of thoughts, information, etc."
How exactly does posting insulting memes qualify for that?

 

[padredurand]

You first start off by throwing in some redicule(due to the lack of any real arguments, and reaction to your programming), pick one piece
of the topic(which you consider ludicrous obviously, furthermore increasing redicule levels), to not post something ONLY consisting of
insults, and then proceed to turning into ignorance mode, by denying the months worth of matieral thats available on the topic, to which
theres quite numerous references here in this very thread.
There is something problematic here, i agree...

You do realize that you are probably the only one that has any idea of what you were trying to say here. It is not ignorance to read pseudo-scientific pieces that fall somewhere between Art Bell and Erich von Däniken and reject them. Wild and unfounded conjecture is not science.

1 Timothy 6:20 KJV

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:​

 

[Revmitchell]

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Thereby youve blatantly ignored Proverbs 18:13, and proove how your at best a Troll(because you dont even stick to the flamewar 101,
by mixing in something thats actually OT) , or the archetype of a "lukewarm christian" in the worst case.

ummm....no he is not a troll. You need to watch your p's and q's.

 

[Rolfe]

ummm....no he is not a troll. You need to watch your p's and q's.

Thanks, I think... Unless you are voting for the Lukewarm Option. *Laugh*

Cheers.

 

[Revmitchell]

Thanks, I think... Unless you are voting for the Lukewarm Option. *Laugh*

Cheers.

No, some newby shows up starts posting weird stuff and calling members have have time in here trolls. Not going to fly.

 

[MJ33]

Who or what do you consider "the light"? "Always open and searching" suggests that you have not found your way, and that you are gambling with your soul's eternal fate.

I appreciate your concern, but I am doing just fine thank you. Have a nice day.

 

[MJ33]

...and there are no UFO's just as there are no bigfoots, and no abominable snowmen. Folks who purport such things will not be taken seriously.

You said that once before and if I am not mistaken you have yet to address the information I have presented. Folks who ignore evidence about such things will not be taken seriously either!!

 

[MJ33]

Discussion is for serious subjects not fanciful myths that Christians should now better than to mess with.

That's cute. Address the information I have presented.

 

[Don]

In 1988 or 1989, my wife's uncle relayed to me that, as he had stopped his semi in the desert of Nevada to take a break, he watched an SR-71 flying overhead. For a brief moment, it was silhouetted against the moon. Then, a large bat-wing shaped object was silhouetted against the moon. He asked me if it was possible if that was some experimental plane flying without lights. I told him (honestly) that I didn't know. Even if I had known, I'm sure I would have been in a job position that required me to deny it.

A short time later, the F-117 and B-2 were made public.

My uncle-in-law saw a UFO. I see them all the time. All flying objects are UFOs -- until they're identified.