Ugandan pastors blast Rick Warren for opposing anti-gay law

[FR7 Baptist]

Then you agree men do not have the right to engage in homosexual behavior.

I can't answer for JohnV, but there should be no legal consequences for homosexual activity between consenting adults.

 

[Aaron]

While we can never deny or water down what God's Word clearly teaches about sexuality, at the same time the church must stand to protect the dignity of all individuals. . .

Even pedophiles?

-- as Jesus did and commanded all of us to do.

Tripe. There is no such commandment.

Fourth, ALL life, no matter how humble or broken, whether unborn or dying, is precious to God.

Tripe.

Finally, the freedom to make moral choices, and our right to free expression are gifts endowed by God.

Tripe. God has not given man the freedom to make immoral choices. That is not liberty, that is bondage.

Warren is simply pandering to Sodom.

 

[annsni]

Then you agree men do not have the right to engage in homosexual behavior.

Do men have the right to sin?

 

[Aaron]

I can't answer for JohnV, but there should be no legal consequences for homosexual activity between consenting adults.

. . . Why not?

 

[Aaron]

Do men have the right to sin?

No, they don't.

 

[Marcia]

...then my question is...why are Ugandan pastors asking Rick Warren for his opinion or direction?

Are you familiar with RW's "P.E.A.C.E." Plan? Google it. RW has a grand plan for partnering with the "chief influencers" (and not necessarily Christians) in certain villages in some African countries to make things better. The problem is that it's not based on spreading the gospel as far as I know.

As far as I can see, this whole Ugandan mess with these pastors is a result of RW's plans to do his thing in Africa.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

. . . Why not?

Because the role of government should be limited. In the United States, we are governed by the Constitution. I know you have no respect for the Constitution or rule of law, but in the real world we use it as a guide for our government as interpreted by the courts. In Lawrence v. Texas the Supreme Court ruled a Texas sodomy law unconstitutional.

 

[Aaron]

Because the role of government should be limited.

You're on the right track, but limited to what?

In the United States, we are governed by the Constitution.

We haven't been governed by the Constitution for decades.

I know you have no respect for the Constitution or rule of law. . .

If you understood what "the rule of law" means, you would agree with me.

but in the real world we use it as a guide for our government as interpreted by the courts. In Lawrence v. Texas the Supreme Court ruled a Texas sodomy law unconstitutional.

I'm well aware of Sodom's perversion of the Constitution.

 

[webdog]

Are you familiar with RW's "P.E.A.C.E." Plan? Google it. RW has a grand plan for partnering with the "chief influencers" (and not necessarily Christians) in certain villages in some African countries to make things better. The problem is that it's not based on spreading the gospel as far as I know.

As far as I can see, this whole Ugandan mess with these pastors is a result of RW's plans to do his thing in Africa.

I am familiar with it, and have no problem with it. Members of our church volunteers at a local food bank, and the Gospel is not shared there. We are called to help others as believers as well as share the Gospel.

 

[Johnv]

I can't answer for JohnV, but there should be no legal consequences for homosexual activity between consenting adults.

I've always held the position that private activities of individuals in the privacy of their own homes should not be regulated, or at least requlated with extreme caution. But debates of what should and shouldn't be regulated in the US isn't the issue of this thread. I certainly don't think it should be illegal for a person to take the Lord's name in vain in the privacy of his own home, even though taking the Lord's name in vain is expressly forbidden in the Commandments.

The thread here isn't about that. It's about the Ugandan legislation, which goes so far over the deep end to persecute people, that no discerning Christian should support it. Evef if one takes the position that the Ugandans can legislate as they see fit, there can be no reason to take issue with Warren's outpoken opposition to it.

 

[Revmitchell]

Because the role of government should be limited. In the United States, we are governed by the Constitution. I know you have no respect for the Constitution or rule of law, but in the real world we use it as a guide for our government as interpreted by the courts. In Lawrence v. Texas the Supreme Court ruled a Texas sodomy law unconstitutional.

Just stop. Now your being inconsistent which shows a lack of honesty. You claim limited government for sodomy but want the biggest expansion of government in history with regard to health care. Your not fooling anyone.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Thanks to the holidays this thread is on its eighth page. So I am closing it now.