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Ukraine War

canadyjd

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You are deranged….pick a fight with Trump is your perspective on that…really! Yea you’re a certified MAGA flake. :confused:
And yet, z has agreed to a cease fire.

Are you going to continue to complain if peace breaks out in Ukraine? Yes. I’m sure you will.

Deranged? Wow, you must have been on the debate team at Harvard!

Peace to you
 

Silverhair

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I don’t disagree agree that Russia was the aggressor. I don’t disagree the E.U. has much more at stake than we do.

Russia already has control of Crimea for 10 years. They weren’t stopped and now control the land.

It is unlikely they would agree to withdraw from Ukraine. That would be defeat.

The Ukrainians have to decide if giving up territory is worth peace.

Quite frankly, I wish Z, instead of starting a fight with DT in the Oval Office, would have channeled Churchill and said they would fight them in the fields, they would fight them in the streets, they would fight them on the seas, Ukraine would never surrender one meter of land for “peace” because Putin cannot be trusted.

But, once you lose $100 billion U.S., you lose the moral high ground for such statements.

Peace to you

Yes if he had channeled Churchill I think we would have seen more action to get Putin out.

I cannot see Z agreeing to let Putin stay in Ukraine as that would just empower Putin to try for more land later.
 

kyredneck

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If the price is not paid now it will be paid to a greater extent later.

Would you let your son go fight for Ukraine AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

Would YOU go fight for Ukraine AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

What about the cost to do drive the Russians out of Ukraine? Is Canada able to afford it AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

You're willing to risk a nuclear escalation in this conflict to push the Russians out, AT THIS POINT IN TIME?
 
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Silverhair

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Would you let your son go fight for Ukraine AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

Would YOU go fight for Ukraine AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

What about the cost to do drive the Russians out of Ukraine? Is Canada able to afford it AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

You're willing to risk a nuclear escalation in this conflict to push the Russians out, AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

My father fought in WW2 when the war was on the other side of the ocean. Where would we be now if no one had stepped up to fight for the freedoms we have now?
Strange how it is the Ukrainians that are fighting for their homeland and Russia that has brought in foreign troops.

Would you be willing to give up 20% of the US to Russia? Even knowing that they will come back later to take more.

What is the cost if we do not drive Russia out of Ukraine? Do you actually think he will stop considering his desire to remake the Soviet Union.

No one wants a nuclear war but do you really believe Putin would start one as he has said a number of times that this is the red line that will cause just that. And yet when they were crossed he did nothing. He is all bluff just like DJT.
 

canadyjd

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Minsk agreement took nukes out of Ukraine. Let’s give them 50 mid range nukes and let them defend themselves. Our obligation to Ukraine would then been complete.

Peace to you
 

kyredneck

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My father fought in WW2

Ditto. He fought the Japs in the Pacific, had horrific PTSD from it. I experienced the repercussions firsthand as a child

Would you be willing to give up 20% of the US to Russia?

Not in that position. There comes a time in every conflict that one party has to admit they've been defeated.

What is the cost if we do not drive Russia out of Ukraine?

It's their problem. After the fighting stops the people there will find a way. I'm NOT willing to fall on a sword for the Ukrainians, period.

What is the cost if we do not drive Russia out of Ukraine?

That's a stupid question. Much blood and billions of $$$, and it could possibly end up in a nuclear war.

No one wants a nuclear war but do you really believe Putin would start one as he has said a number of times that this is the red line that will cause just that. And yet when they were crossed he did nothing. He is all bluff just like DJT.

Educate yourself.
 

Silverhair

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Ditto. He fought the Japs in the Pacific, had horrific PTSD from it. I experienced the repercussions firsthand as a child



Not in that position. There comes a time in every conflict that one party has to admit they've been defeated.



It's their problem. After the fighting stops the people there will find a way. I'm NOT willing to fall on a sword for the Ukrainians, period.



That's a stupid question. Much blood and billions of $$$, and it could possibly end up in a nuclear war.



Educate yourself.
Russia as he said crashed over the border in 22. Russia started the war, period.

You do not reward the aggressor, period.

And not a stupid question KY. Stop Putin now or later.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Would you let your son go fight for Ukraine AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

Would YOU go fight for Ukraine AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

What about the cost to do drive the Russians out of Ukraine? Is Canada able to afford it AT THIS POINT IN TIME?

You're willing to risk a nuclear escalation in this conflict to push the Russians out, AT THIS POINT IN TIME?
Obviously you don’t understand, obviously you have never lived in Slavic or Balkin countries? Note they are in constant threat from the Russians who joined hands with the Nazis in WW 2 to dismantle, depose and rule over Poland, the Ukraine, Sweden, Czechoslovakia and Finland. These people do NOT want a takeover by ‘The Bear ‘ who starved out the people of the Ukraine. What Russia is known for is creating unrest and divide. My friend Who is a Ukrainian Baptist Pastor was put in prison for preaching…and told that if caught he would be killed and that’s why he is here in the USA Today. My great grandfather was physically chased out of Slovakia in the night and emigrated to the US to escape prison (possibly execution) by those communists SOB ‘s. Good because he and his brother worked their butts off in the coal mines of Pennsylvania helping build America. Forget Russia, they treat people as slaves, cogs in a wheel, a throw away society. So yea, I would allow my son & Grandson to fight and if die for the freedoms America provides. And that is what really makes America great!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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We shall see if Putin will agree to a cease fire first. Then the real negotiations will begin.

Please Lord, let it end.

Peace to you
If you want it to end you have to make it end. Read about Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Nagasaki. ….ie scoarched earth. That’s what will make it end.
 

canadyjd

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A “scorched earth” policy in the age of nuclear weapons would leave the whole Earth scorched, not just a few cities.

Peace to you
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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A “scorched earth” policy in the age of nuclear weapons would leave the whole Earth scorched, not just a few cities.

Peace to you
Fine…I’m not afraid if they kill my body…it is my soul that will be free and continue to live on. I am a child of God and ultimately it is in his hands. But I will not lie down to any despots.


 
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