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Voter ID laws
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These same elderly people who don't drive, can get a photo ID at their DMV. They are REQUIRED to show a photo ID at their physicians' offices. I know, my mom doesn't have a DL but STILL has to have a photo ID for medical purposes.....cheap and easy to get at the DMV.
freeatlast
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Well for one thing it tends to put a burden on the poor and if there are more poor in certain races then it could be racist. Perhaps you cannot understand that because you are not living hand to mouth. The poor do not have transportation to go and get some form of special ID. Right now to register all it takes is a utility bill to prove you live in the county you are registering. Also there are those who are living on the street and want to vote. This law could easily discourage or keep someone from registering.
None the less all this is just a political joke so they can push back doing what they need to do and that is to round up every illegal put them in prison for 5 years and then deport them.
freeatlast
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You are not getting it. The constitution does not limit what a Doctor requires even if inconvenient, but it does if it hinders voting rights. You say cheap and easy? No it should not cost even a penny to vote. Second the law has no ability to stop voter fraud.
This is baloney. With all the junk the left wants to spend money on if they were interested in honesty on this issue they would see to it they could get ID's. But I doubt it is a real issue.
Bobby Hamilton
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1. You're reaching. Lots of things put burden on lots of people. Sorry, but this doesn't fly for me.
2. It you are poor, you are poor. If this is something you can't do, then you can't do it. But that doesn't make it in the least sense racist. Until someone says "we want every voter to have an ID so we can make sure every black person who votes is who they say they are"...then there isn't anything racist about this at all. You're reaching.
About the only thing I agree with you on here is rounding up illegals and deporting them...and just another reason I think we should have valid ID's on us all the time.
As far as what is in bold, I have lived poor. I've never lived in a cardboard box, but I have lived not knowing where my next meal would come from. I have lived knowing that...that particular night might be my last night with that particular roof over my head. I've lived without many things people would call a necessity. Do I now? No. Do I feel for those people who do? Yes.
Do I think the government should charge people for these ID's? No.
But do I think people should be able to show a photo ID to prove who they are when they vote? Yes.
2. It you are poor, you are poor. If this is something you can't do, then you can't do it. But that doesn't make it in the least sense racist. Until someone says "we want every voter to have an ID so we can make sure every black person who votes is who they say they are"...then there isn't anything racist about this at all. You're reaching.
About the only thing I agree with you on here is rounding up illegals and deporting them...and just another reason I think we should have valid ID's on us all the time.
As far as what is in bold, I have lived poor. I've never lived in a cardboard box, but I have lived not knowing where my next meal would come from. I have lived knowing that...that particular night might be my last night with that particular roof over my head. I've lived without many things people would call a necessity. Do I now? No. Do I feel for those people who do? Yes.
Do I think the government should charge people for these ID's? No.
But do I think people should be able to show a photo ID to prove who they are when they vote? Yes.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...bbott-claims-50-election-fraud-convictions-2/
The tip of the iceberg in Texas. It's the elephant in the room democrats, as the recipient of most fraudulent votes, choose to ignore.
The tip of the iceberg in Texas. It's the elephant in the room democrats, as the recipient of most fraudulent votes, choose to ignore.
I have been poor, too, not knowing where our next meal was coming from, too proud to take food stamps, did take some help with heat and lights and food from a charity. But I still had a valid driver's license with a photo ID.
As has already been pointed out, you have to have a photo ID to buy alcohol and cigs, show it at the doctor, show it to fly, show it to open a bank account, show it for employment, show it to utility companies, and probably need to show it to get some federal bennies and handouts. This whole complaint about discrimination is a red herring. It is an illegitimate "foul" cry by people who want to stuff the ballot box illegally, either with multiple votes, dead votes, illegal votes, or to win by any means.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. Quite interesting. Especially when ITL called out conservatives on another thread.
As has already been pointed out, you have to have a photo ID to buy alcohol and cigs, show it at the doctor, show it to fly, show it to open a bank account, show it for employment, show it to utility companies, and probably need to show it to get some federal bennies and handouts. This whole complaint about discrimination is a red herring. It is an illegitimate "foul" cry by people who want to stuff the ballot box illegally, either with multiple votes, dead votes, illegal votes, or to win by any means.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. Quite interesting. Especially when ITL called out conservatives on another thread.
freeatlast
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You have no clue what being poor is like.
Why because it doesn't fit your paradigm about voter ID"s? You don't know what she knows.
freeatlast
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I know based on what she said.
No you don't. You haven't been given enough info.
Maybe this will help:
● Eighty percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
● Fully 92 percent of poor households have a microwave; two-thirds have at least one DVD player and 70 percent have a VCR.
● Nearly 75 percent have a car or truck; 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.
● Four out of five poor adults assert they were never hungry at any time in the prior year due to lack of money for food.
● Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite television.
● Half have a personal computer; one in seven have two or more computers.
● More than half of poor families with children have a video game system such as Xbox or PlayStation.
● Just under half — 43 percent — have Internet access.
● A third have a widescreen plasma or LCD TV.
● One in every four has a digital video recorder such as TiVo.
As noted, TV newscasts about poverty in America usually picture the poor as homeless or as a destitute family living in an overcrowded, rundown trailer. The actual facts are far different:
● At a single point in time, only one in 70 poor persons is homeless.
● The vast majority of the houses or apartments of the poor are in good repair; only 6 percent are over-crowded.
● The average poor American has more living space than the average non-poor individual living in Sweden, France, Germany or the United Kingdom.
● Only 10 percent of the poor live in mobile homes or trailers; half live in detached single-family houses or townhouses, while 40 percent live in apartments.
● Forty-two percent of all poor households own their home; on average, it’s a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.
Now that we know voter id laws will be no hardship on the poor, let's take another look at what is going on out there...
freeatlast
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I know based on what she wrote.
freeatlast
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Those are not poor people. Take a walk to box city.
Bobby Hamilton
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You assume, you don't know. How do you manage to fit your head through a doorway?
No you don't and you are being rude.
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