Walmart and Disney: Obey or Lose Your Pay

[Reynolds]

Good for you.... I personally consider my doing it a courtesy and a way of keeping safe so...

I don't get tested or wear a mask. Only way I know I had it was antibody test. I was getting blood drawn anyway and just for curiosity got it done.
I had the old hag pharmacist about to cry. Mask! Mask! Mask! I never did put a mask on. Got my wife's oder and left. Old hagg shrieking like a looney bird and I was laughing at her. My wife traded with them because she has some friends who work there. I had them all so tore up they didn't have a clue what to do. It's in the county and the sheriff already said he is not charging anyone with any mask compliance related issues. They really went looney when I told them that "Y'all obviously don't trust the vaccines you are giving."
My wife told me that her friends were surprised by how I acted. I told her I was ashamed she would call Covid Caving weak minded Individuals " friends", and I don't give a ......what they think. These Covid Caving clowns are quite pathetic.
Covid Caving sheeple clowns. Covid Caving cowards. Easily led by the lies from the father of lies and his servants.

 

[AVL1984]

This really chaps my ****. The first government ‘lock out’ trial balloon…..who do they go to?! The VA! These vets have all taken every method of shot……multiple times that they may not have wanted, & actually served this country! The thanks they get is being the first to be kicked over to be made an example of what can happen if you don’t obey. Obey to be part of their clinical trial. Obey to take the free shot that you will be responsible for any negative outcome that is a result of it. Chapped.
For some reason I thought you had taken the shot, one of the mods said the only negative they had was the fifteen minutes of waiting at the VA. Maybe Squire.

My birth father was a Marine in the 50s and 60s. He was part of a government experiment, or at least that's what he and several of those who were in his unit thought. They all had similar problems which were outside the norm for people, and other groups in the Marines didn't seem to suffer these things. Then with the vaccines...he already has had a couple of heart attacks and several strokes and is dying of stage 4 emphysema...his personal doctor told him not to get the vaccine as it would aggravate his condition, but the VA doctor pretty much told him it was required for all vets using the VA...otherwise they wouldn't be admitted for service. I find this crazy. Never have liked the VA...they're crooked in many areas. Now, after the vaccines, they're testing him for blood clots every time he goes in. Why??? Something stinks in the VA! Something stinks in our government.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I don't get tested or wear a mask. Only way I know I had it was antibody test. I was getting blood drawn anyway and just for curiosity got it done.
I had the old hag pharmacist about to cry. Mask! Mask! Mask! I never did put a mask on. Got my wife's oder and left. Old hagg shrieking like a looney bird and I was laughing at her. My wife traded with them because she has some friends who work there. I had them all so tore up they didn't have a clue what to do. It's in the county and the sheriff already said he is not charging anyone with any mask compliance related issues. They really went looney when I told them that "Y'all obviously don't trust the vaccines you are giving."
My wife told me that her friends were surprised by how I acted. I told her I was ashamed she would call Covid Caving weak minded Individuals " friends", and I don't give a ......what they think. These Covid Caving clowns are quite pathetic.
Covid Caving sheeple clowns. Covid Caving cowards. Easily led by the lies from the father of lies and his servants.

I almost got into a fist fight with a guy at a supermarket because of it (long story ). My anger is over these health mandates that you must be vaccinated or else. They should go through what my family went through ... experimental drug indeed

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

My birth father was a Marine in the 50s and 60s. He was part of a government experiment, or at least that's what he and several of those who were in his unit thought. They all had similar problems which were outside the norm for people, and other groups in the Marines didn't seem to suffer these things. Then with the vaccines...he already has had a couple of heart attacks and several strokes and is dying of stage 4 emphysema...his personal doctor told him not to get the vaccine as it would aggravate his condition, but the VA doctor pretty much told him it was required for all vets using the VA...otherwise they wouldn't be admitted for service. I find this crazy. Never have liked the VA...they're crooked in many areas. Now, after the vaccines, they're testing him for blood clots every time he goes in. Why??? Something stinks in the VA! Something stinks in our government.

I hate the VA... like you, I have had my experiences & my reasons. The government can be a most dangerous enemy.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Look folks, we can obsess over the current political situation, the officegating of the current administration, the COVID sheeple (who I detest), our present medical nightmares blah blah blah then I think of all my blessings like Pam & I are having our 1st grand baby in November, my house is almost payed off, my wife really loves me & I her, we are looking for a house (with some land) in Florida by my son and family, as bad as I am I am a son of the Living God, it’s a beautiful day today... like that!

Now my great grandfather ran out of the communist block countries and made a home for his family in Scranton PA, started a business working in the coal industry, made money and bought 400 acre dairy farm. That guy knew hardship, living under communism is terrible (farmers were shot for owning tractors—just because). And that is why he used plow horses (two teams/ one for morning & one for afternoon). What a breakthrough when he finally bought a tractor! Then he even got away from kerosene lamps and ran electricity. He was frugal, hard working, strong minded and a great provider for his family and his grandchildren. I’m especially proud & blessed to be named after him... I carry that guys name. So to honor him, the sign on my door reads “ Freedom will be Defended.”

What a fantastic country! ​

 

[Wingman68]

 

[SGO]

Kaiser Permanente mandates COVID-19 vaccination for all employees and physicians amid resurging pandemic
Kaiser Permanente mandates COVID-19 vaccination for all employees and physicians amid resurging pandemic

 

[Wingman68]

Border crisis: McAllen mayor rages at Biden over soaring number of migrants with COVID in his city | Daily Mail Online

But not for the hoards coming through the ‘border’. No border? No country. They have covid? No problem. Only a problem for citizens trying to work for a living.

 

[Wingman68]

This Is A Must Watch Share Everywhere!

This makes too much sense.

 

[Reynolds]

Not really. It wouldn't bother me if they gave the test at work, I guess.

I do wear a mask at work (since last week) because it is required.

Either way it is no big deal to me.

I am not going to whine about wearing a mask at work or about getting tested at work.

The govt and your employer lied to you. You were told you wouldn't have to wear mask if you got vax.
I just want to see some honesty from both sides. Pro vax is burying the adverse reactions. Both sides should be honest and transparent.

 

[JonC]

The govt and your employer lied to you. You were told you wouldn't have to wear mask if you got vax.
I just want to see some honesty from both sides. Pro vax is burying the adverse reactions. Both sides should be honest and transparent.

Ok, let's look at honesty - not intent (people make mistakes) but correctness of statements.

How did my employer lie to me?

You see where I'm going with this? My employer never told me that were I to get a vaccine I would not have to wear a mask. My previous employer went by DOE standards, as does my present. But (as you probably know) policies regarding masks are not indefinite.

So I can say you are, IMHO, an honest man but at the same time your post is not true (about my employer). How does this apply? Well, mine was a very simple context and you made a mistake. How much more is room for error when dealing with vaccines.

And I always expect your government to lie. Those are politicians up there in DC.

 

[Reynolds]

Ok, let's look at honesty - not intent (people make mistakes) but correctness of statements.

How did my employer lie to me?

You said you were told vaxed would not have to wear masks and unvaxed would have to wear masks.
(If I remember correctly)

 

[JonC]

You said you were told vaxed would not have to wear masks and unvaxed would have to wear masks.
(If I remember correctly)

Yes. My employer was Insolves (a DOE contractor). I changed contracts.

But that said, I did not say the DOE announced that if you got a vacvine you would not have to wear a mask. What they put out was that those who are vaccinated were not required to wear a mask. This was subject to change (the policy actually stated it was subject to change).

 

[Reynolds]

Yes. My employer was Insolves (a DOE contractor). I changed contracts.

But that said, I did not say the DOE announced that if you got a vacvine you would not have to wear a mask. What they put out was that those who are vaccinated were not required to wear a mask. This was subject to change (the policy actually stated it was subject to change).

They baited and switched ya. The dishonesty abounds.

 

[JonC]

They baited and switched ya. The dishonesty abounds.

No. They didn't. DOE follows federal guidance. And, as I told you via pm (to keep it honest on the public forum) it was explained in the guidelines that the requirements were subject to change.

Also, my reason for getting vaccinated was not to wear a mask. I was never told that were I to get a vaccine I would not need a mask.

I do not mean to offend, but the dishonesty here is not my employer. This is kinda the issue with the vax vs anti folk. They try to pick apart any statement to find a villain but in the end they unknowingly make themselves the villain.

 

[Reynolds]

No. They didn't. DOE follows federal guidance. And, as I told you via pm (to keep it honest on the public forum) it was explained in the guidelines that the requirements were subject to change.

Also, my reason for getting vaccinated was not to wear a mask. I was never told that were I to get a vaccine I would not need a mask.
I do not mean to offend, but the dishonesty here is not my employer.

In your orig pm, did you say it was subject to change? No. I accurately and honestly conveyed what I was told. I don't drag PMs on open board. I consider that dishonest. Nothing I said was dishonest.

 

[JonC]

In your orig pm, did you say it was subject to change? No. I accurately and honestly conveyed what I was told. I don't drag PMs on open board. I consider that dishonest.

I probably did, but am not sure.

I was saying why I got a vacvine, NOT what the DOE put out in a policy.

I never drag other people's statements via pm in to the open forum either. But I would not call reminding a member they know better (from a pm) dishonest.

And I don't think you are a dishonest person, either.

I just think you made some assumptions that you thought would support some dishonesty on mask requirements. But the DOE falls under federal requirements and so do federal contract companies.

So you could say the federal government is corrupt, but I'm not arguing against that idea.

 

[Reynolds]

I probably did, but am not sure.

I was saying why I got a vacvine, NOT what the DOE put out in a policy.

I never drag other people's statements via pm in to the open forum either. But I would not call reminding a member they know better (from a pm) dishonest.

And I don't think you are a dishonest person, either.

I just think you made some assumptions that you thought would support some dishonesty on mask requirements. But the DOE falls under federal requirements and so do federal contract companies.

So you could say the federal government is corrupt, but I'm not arguing against that idea.

You didn't say it was subject to change. I found it and re-read it. Biden didn't say it was subject either. He said get vaccinated and stop wearing mask. He even said vaxed people should not wear mask. They just making up lies as they go. Anything to further the agenda.

 

[Salty]

The govt and your employer lied to you. You were told you wouldn't have to wear mask if you got vax.
I just want to see some honesty from both sides. Pro vax is burying the adverse reactions. Both sides should be honest and transparent.

Not necessarily - things change!

You tell you son - This weekend we are going fishing for the whole weekend.

But at 2 pm - the boss tells you must meet a client at the airport on Sat at 2 pm.
So you cannot take your son fishing - did you lie to him - of course not.

Things happen.

A lie is when you intentionally try to deceive someone.

 

[JonC]

You didn't say it was subject to change. I found it and re-read it. Biden didn't say it was subject either. He said get vaccinated and stop wearing mask. He even said vaxed people should not wear mask. They just making up lies as they go. Anything to further the agenda.

I do not know why I would have thought to say it was subject to change.

I was saying why I got a vaccine. I knew it was subject to change (I have worked with the DOE or DOD for most of my life).

To clarify, the DOE did not lie to me. I just did not think it was important to discuss in detail that the DOE guidance was based on federal guidance which was subject to change.

If that makes me a liar in your book, then so be it. But my intention was simply to say why I got a vaccine.