What are some verses you think can be improved in the ESV?

[Rippon]

Even though there is a known Feminist movemnent with some evangelical circles that refuses to accept male headship/leadership, and so what male/females exactly same roles/positions before god, hence the agressive Inclusive languaging?

You are one mixed-up dude.

 

[Rippon]

By the way, D.A. Carson said of the NRSV:"It's a jolly good translation." Would any of you dare to call him a feminist?
No way! Read his books and hear him preach and you will be disabused of that notion.

 

[Van]

Again, how many examples of botched translation are needed to set the ESV on the thanks but no thanks shelf, 5, 10, 25?

 

[Yeshua1]

It is more inclusive than the TNIV, which in turn was more inclusive than the 2011 NIV.

All 3 of them though erred in doing this to such a degree!

 

[Rippon]

All 3 of them though erred in doing this to such a degree!

So where is your line in the sand? Did the NET go too far? Has the CSB gone too far?

 

[Yeshua1]

So where is your line in the sand? Did the NET go too far? Has the CSB gone too far?

Yes, 1984 Niv as far as would like to see it go!

 

[Rippon]

Yes, 1984 Niv as far as would like to see it go!

So all the inclusive language that the ESV and HCSB have is going too far in your opinion. Do you think they are going the feminist route and yielding to political correctness? Remember to be consistent.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

By the way, D.A. Carson said of the NRSV:"It's a jolly good translation." Would any of you dare to call him a feminist?
No way! Read his books and hear him preach and you will be disabused of that notion.

In the light of that, why do you think he decided to get involved in another revision of the RSV?

 

[Rippon]

In the light of that, why do you think he decided to get involved in another revision of the RSV?

Why did D.A. Carson write a fairly positive review of the NRSV more than a quarter century ago? Because he believed every word he wrote.

 

[Yeshua1]

So all the inclusive language that the ESV and HCSB have is going too far in your opinion. Do you think they are going the feminist route and yielding to political correctness? Remember to be consistent.

They have not yet altered the text to make it appear that God allows women to be leaders, nor seeming to seny Male headship, have they?

 

[Yeshua1]

Why did D.A. Carson write a fairly positive review of the NRSV more than a quarter century ago? Because he believed every word he wrote.

Even though he also took on translating another translation that did not view that in same light?

 

[Rippon]

They have not yet altered the text to make it appear that God allows women to be leaders, nor seeming to seny Male headship, have they?

No, they have not. And the NIV is not guilty of those things as well.

Stop with your continuing falsehoods.

 

[Rippon]

Even though he also took on translating another translation that did not view that in same light?

I wish you could express yourself in plain English.

As far as I know, the only Bible translation that D.A. Carson took part in is the NLT. The NLT uses about as much inclusive language as the NRSV. Now what is the point you are trying to make?

 

[Rippon]

The turned desire for into desire contrary,

Are you trying to be in competition with Y-1? You leave a lot to be desired. ;-)

 

[Rippon]

The NRSV is jsut as inclusiveas the 2011 Niv, so you support it as a translation?

Wrong yet again. The NRSV uses considerably more inclusive language than the NIV. You just can't seem to state any truthful facts.

 

[Rippon]

and also issues with it sounding rightreading right when translated....

You and Van, two peas in a pod.

 

[Ziggy]

They have not yet altered the text to make it appear that God allows women to be leaders, nor seeming to seny Male headship, have they?

From Bible Gateway:

1Tim 3:2,

CEB: "So the church’s supervisor must be without fault. They should be faithful to their spouse, sober, modest, and honest. They should show hospitality and be skilled at teaching."

CEV: "That’s why officials must have a good reputation and be faithful in marriage. They must be self-controlled, sensible, well-behaved, friendly to strangers, and able to teach."

 

[Van]

Some poster's disparage people, others address the thread topic.

Case in point Genesis 3:16. The NASB reads differently than the ESV.
Case in point Revelation 13:8. The NASB reads differently than the ESV.
Case in point 2 Thessalonians 2:13. The NASB reads differently than the ESV.

These three are examples of where the ESV rewrites scripture to fit doctrine. They turned desire for into desire contrary, they turned since into before, and they turned a noun (salvation) into a verb (saved).

 

[Rippon]

From Bible Gateway:

1Tim 3:2,

CEB: "So the church’s supervisor must be without fault. They should be faithful to their spouse, sober, modest, and honest. They should show hospitality and be skilled at teaching."

CEV: "That’s why officials must have a good reputation and be faithful in marriage. They must be self-controlled, sensible, well-behaved, friendly to strangers, and able to teach."

In contrast, the NIV has :
"Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach"

 

[Rippon]

Some poster's disparage people, others address the thread topic.

The NASB reads differently than the ESV.
The NASB reads differently than the ESV.
The NASB reads differently than the ESV.

Well that's sure breaking news. The NIV, NLT, CSB, LEB, and many other versions differ from not only the ESV but one another. Do you have any more revelations for us Van?

They turned desire for into desire contrary,

You have turned English on its head.